Google's 2007-Q3/Q4 PageRank (PR) Update

Most people who use toolbar, dont know (or care) what PR is. They'd lose hardly anyone.

 

*sigh*

You need to learn how to (1) read and (2) think before posting.

One more time: Google isn't penalizing advertising. They are happy to have people advertise. They just don't want those ads to pass PR.

So they ask people to use javascript or "nofollow" tags on ads. I agree that's bullshit. Nullifying PR is their job, not mine.

The alternative is for Google to do what they are doing now and have been doing for some time: Leave the advertising link alone and just nullify the ability of the link to pass PR.

How very colorful and juvenile. Not to mention misinformed.

 

Does Google have "nuts"? And I always envisioned an old, overweight, gray haired woman!

 

Do yourself a favour and reply IF and ONLY IF you have something interesting to add. Thanks. Of course, I've read the whole thread for months, is it conclusive? is it scientifically proved? is it the truth? isn't it a lot of speculation?

 

By the way, the original question is not a non-sense at all?

If the problem (for Google, not for us) is the unwanted Pagerank leaked to some pages which buy links of high PR sites (in a non-natural fashion, e.g. paying a few bucks to get linked from), it might be useful (for Google) to restrain the webmasters from knowing the PR of a page. I know, i know, the Toolbar PR is at least a few months old, but it still gives the chance to figure out if the page is worth enough to buy a link (if PR boost is what you are looking for).

So, if Google doesn't allow to transfer PR from the pages that sell links AND Google doesn't export the PR to the toolbar, then the whole business of selling links (for PR purposes only) will be disencouraged. Nobody will know if the current PR of a site is close to the last Toolbar PR and there will be -almost- no way to tell if a site gains PR by buying a link.

It's not so crazy as it may sound at the beginning. As a matter of fact, if I were behind Google CIO Desk, that's exactly what I would do.

 

My visualization always goes back to Sergey Brin in a dress.

 

That is just the point. If Google wanted this to stop that would be THE way to do it.. that is why they are using it as only an excuse to try and rake in some extra revenue. It's dirty, it's underhanded and it's business.

 

perhaps you missed them... their between the G's

 

yeah, you hate google then what? What will you do? Keep babbling? Do you think it will change your website's rankings? If you want to get good rank in Google, follow their rules. If you want to advertise via adwords, then go for it. If not, then you can do other method of advertising your website. it's simple. For example, you live in a Muslim country and you dressed up like a bitch. Is that permitted? Of course not. If you are an orphan and blamed God because of your condition, do you think something will change? Of course not. Similar thing goes here. Follow their rules or quit. That's the choices. It all happens in every aspect of our life. The best example is religion. Follow God's rules or go to hell.

Personally, I don't smell something evil from Google. I never used text link ads or other kind of link advertising because it's simply stupid. If you have good content, then people will link to you. Link exchange (although not as strong as it was anymore) is also useful. So why do you care so much about paid links? Because you don't have enough skills to create good content? If you depend heavily only from paid links, that means you don't have enough skill to compete. So I agree with Google's rules. Even if Google doesn't exist, the other SEs (i.e. Yahoo) will kill paid links in the future. Their reason will be the same.

P.S.: I don't think Google Adwords is always good for advertising. For some niche, MSN maybe far more better than adwords.

 

it's kinda funny this thread is 101 days old.. That just shows it's been a good 3 months since ppl even started seeing changes..lol

 

I think no other tool can be that effective like PR tool by Google

 

oww how many replies ...well i dont want to say anything...just was cheking whts going on inside..heheh..cheers!

 

This is the best answer to the mystery of where the PR update is that I have read so far in this thread! The longer the PR update doesn't happen and without an explanation, the more likely it looks like Google has something to hide from those that depend on regular PR updates.

 

Going to have to actually change the title of this thread from "Google's 2007-Q3 PageRank (PR) Update" to: "Google's 2007-Q4 PageRank (PR) Update" if they dont get thier act together soon.

 

No, that's my ex girlfriend you are thinking of. (I was going to say my wife but I can't rule out the fact that she might come here one day and read it)

 

Well then why did people fight Jim Crow laws? Why did women in Afghanistan fight for their rights? Why did Quakers meet in homes to avoid being burned and hanged by the Church of England?

Why? Just because it is a law or a rule doesn't always make it right, just or fair. Your explanation lacks rationale.

Let's stop looking at Google as just a SE for a minute, and start looking at them as the Multi-Billion Dollar Mega-Conglomerate that they are. What is the one thing that all businesses do? That's right PROTECT YOUR ASSETS.

Microsoft is a better example for that they were able to pull off in the late 80's and 90's by getting a strangle hold on the market. Effectively squashing competition like Netscape along the way. Just because Google has gotten fairly far working WITH webmasters doesn't make them immune to the same evil actions that every corporation will do anything to protect their interest, eliminate competition and build revenue.

Any company that says they love competition is full of it. Simply put monopolies, duopolies and oligopolies are the best models for a revenue rich company. Just look at OPEC and State-Side energy suppliers. Many here in the US (save for a few degregulated states) are "Natural Monopolies" and OPEC is an Oligopoly. Effectively able to control pricing and force consumers with a necessary good at whatever cost they want. How else do you think Exxon is posting historic profits?

Now back to Google. Cutting competition down, no matter how slight or how small the margin of profit is for them still increases their revenue, expands their bottom line and increases their investors dividends... all which a company seeks to do. But at what cost? Taking away revenue from sites? killing off an entire industry?

Heck, I would even bet that once Google's Mandate begins to get enforced they might just give an offer to TLA and start selling Text Links themselves.... of course to not be hypocritical they most likely will force the ads to use 'no follow' tags.

But here again they are directly messing with sites rights. Just like the rule that adsense ads can not appear in a rotation. It's simply a way to kill competition and make themselves the #1 go to spot for us webmasters. It has absolutely nothing to do with SE listings.

 

i wondering if it will go until 2008-Q1

 

I'm wondering too, this is taking too long.

 

Uh-huh. Gotta love conspiracy theorists.

You're a Michael Moore fan, right?

 

RYAN_07 - did we miss something. Because this make nosense to me.