Google's 2007-Q3/Q4 PageRank (PR) Update

There should be some sort of prize for the first person who posts here after the PR update happens.

 

I think we will keep until next update

 

I'm still patiently waiting.... grrrrr... lol

 

Haha! Sometimes I think of possibilities like that too...

I agree... Everyone will be checking their emails 100 times a day to see if they got the smartpagerank.com pagerank update email

 

@Gear7
Page 312.. they should close this thread.

 

September 2007

 

Exactly what I was thinking!

 

Site can be checked for paid links manually by Google staff. Besides, spiders can probably detect "buy link for $xx/month" and the like.

 

Because Google has nothing better to do? Come on, be serious. You honestly think they have humans sitting around "detecting" paid links?

 

They don't have to detect most of them manually.

1. They have a large supply of your competitors willing to file paid links reports which can then be investigated by some hourly paid intern somewhere to collect additonal data for improving Google's algorithms.

2. Any of you who seriously thinks Google can't detect many or most paid links automatically is living in a fantasy world and just not paying attention. Spiders follow links. The vast majority of paid links leave papers trail that aren't difficult to follow. If the link is not content relevant and originates from a site with telltale signs of link buying and selling, you can pretty much count on Google to nullify any PR benefit.

 

Ummmm... Isn't that basically what I was saying? That they don't have humans sitting around doing that? They attempt to find links algorithmically - which was my point to the other poster.

 

I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you - just highlighting the point.

However, I did find your post ambiguous:

Reading that, I see two possible interpretations:

1. you don't think Google can detect paid links at all, echoing what many rather hopelessly optimistic link buying or selling webmasters are saying here; OR

2. you think Google can detect links automatically and therefore doesn't need to do it manually.

With your clarification, it's clear that you meant option 2 and thus it's clear that we agree.

 

There's a number of traits that "paid-links" generally have:

* Being grouped together in a side bar or footer
* Non-thematically related to each other
* Change on a monthly or frequent basis
* Non related to the webpages content
* Seperate from Page Content

Are some of the ways, so if a large percentage of your inbound links share this characteristic your rankings can/will suffer as the alogrithm progresses. As Matt Cutt's said at SES San Jose Google can prevent PageRank flowing from a domain, a single page and even to specific links on a page.

Sure it's still early days for devaluing paid-links, but i'd advise to future proof your domain and rankings with good linking strategies now. You can be sure Google will continue to advance the algo, not just forget about it.

 

nONEq, in this thread, noticed that the new Webmaster Tools layout in Google doesn't show your PR anymore...

Could this be the end of PR?

 

I still see this under Crawl Stats:

"These statistics provide distribution information for pages we have crawled for our google.com index. The PageRank distribution reflects all crawled pages in your site, not just the home page."

 

Pagerank info is in Statistics --> crawl stats now...

 

You're right... disregard my last post

 

Getting back to the PR update, does anyone want to guess when it will be? As matt cutts said on 6th september, "As far as the toolbar PageRank, I definitely wouldn't expect to see it in the next few days. Probably not even in the next couple weeks".

I wouldnt think it will be too far off now. I reckon it will be around 27th - 31st september.

 

I'm not holding my breath... By the "not even in the next couple weeks" line, I'd guess early october... Maybe they want to do it 3 times a year instead of 4...

 

Tommorow MAYBE