Google's 2007-Q3/Q4 PageRank (PR) Update

I agree. I didn't even know what canonicalization update was, so thanks! I did notice an update to my http/https pages with the same content. Very interesting. Nothing else has changed.

 

Interesting... So is there more, or was this one just a "canonicalization" update?

 

Whatever its is -- but it feels great that I have been able to convince
you ( Old Schoolboy--following old school SERPs theory of quality/relevancy/and sssooooo on) that PR is highly important for SERPs after 6 months of continuous debate.

I still remember when you thought PR is just a figure that Link-sellers use to get some unhealthy $$$.

I feel on top of the world that I could prove to you with a comprehensive case study that -- relevancy/quality matters little in terms of SERPs -- and PR power/value is the most significant.

Cheers.

 

that's why i buy high pr RELATED links with the exact anchor text that i'm competing for. if all else is equal, then beat 'em in pr. it's the last (and small) part of the equation.

 

Be careful that you don't trigger a BLOOP doing that, might want to vary the text somewhat.

-Michael

 

yes I agree, that is a very real penalty. I've done it before but now i have a lot better handle on it. Just go for lower searched for terms and it takes only a few backlinks to do it so the bloop thing doesn't happen. right now, i have 6 top 100 (a couple of page two listing included in that) msn positions (they need to be top 3) and google is just being weird. one top 100 and one top 30. i'll just wait it out for now. i keep moving up and never move back so i know I'm finally on the right track after 3 1/2 yrs of trial and error. these pages shoulda been pr 4 and 5 andd one did show a pr4 for a split second and then went away. the links are listed in GWT so just kinda waiting my turn for top 3.

 

Huh?

"...Pages that Google believes are important pages receive a higher PageRank and are more likely to appear at the top of the search results." ©2007 Google — http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html

 

That's Google's Vatican arm. They go down the list of saints and saintesses and decide who should still be on the list - that's called The Pruning of the Saints. After that, they decide which Google employees get to be added to the list.

If the Pope objects, they just Google bomb him until he shuts the hell up.

Okay but:

1. Pages with lower PR can and often do outrank pages with higher PR in Google rankins.

2. PR is and always has been only one of more than 100 factors in determining Google ranking.

 

Sorry, I felt like playing English teacher and correcting your mistakes.

 

That was funny as hell.

 

That's why I'm surprised everyone is hanging out on this thread and talks about PR so much. It's only a number, what matters is good traffic. Unless you wanna use PR to show off or sell some links.

 

In this post I have tried my best to explain how PR helps in SERPs. due to the ever improving dynamic algo of Google, SERPs are also changing every moment (Google section of DP shows how many webmasters are crying foul abt. it) --pages and links are indexing quicker than ever before (Matt says it can get indexed in 15 mins) -- I have been having a 6 months long debate with my friend --who says PR is just a number and there is no direct relevancy between PR & SERPs. I could convince him only couple of days back after a thorough case study. And now he is publicly acknowledging that relevancy of links matters little--
It is the PR juice of inbound links that determines SERPs.

So it is not the PR of the actual site that is determining SERPs --but the PR of inbound link pages are what matters --along with anchor words.

Most of these are short-lived SERPs glory as many webmasters hire SEOs and SEOs find a way to manipulate SERPs by buying short-term high PR backlinks. They get the desired results in 10-15 days and their clients are happy --not realizing that those results are of short-lived glory.

These way most unethical SEOs are duping clients. For example-- I have a friend who can put sites on top--ATM he has a client with whom he has 3 months contract. So he is buying high PR links only for 3 months. Once he gets the result-his clients would be happy. But after 3 months --when there would be no-more links --it will naturally drop. My friend would charge the client again for maintaining it.

The SAGA just goes on and Google is trying to filter it out.

 

It's easier if you don't educate some of them. It lessens the competition, lowers the stress levels, and keeps you from getting distracted.

I had an argument with this nutcase some time ago, who insisted that links didn't help with rankings. Kept going on about this, but wouldn't clarify what the hell he was talking about. However, he would talk about "off page optimization", as if you could have anything called that without links.

The jackass actually used the troll defense on me as an excuse not to clarify himself.

I jumped into the conversation here, and then it continued in another thread:
http://www.seorefugee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35745
http://www.seorefugee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3530

Sometimes you have to let them blather on without replying just for your own sanity.

-Michael

 

Here is an interesting article about "How Links Power Search Results", it was posted today (20th August) !!!
Check it out here: http://www.jonathanleger.com/how-links-power-search-results/

Cheers ....
Gerald.

 

he said this



"That doesn't change the fact that Google doesn't rank by linkage, and has never ranked by linkage. Ranking-by-linkage remains the most inefficient means of achieving high rankings possible."

Some sites do have great rankings without too many backlinks, no? So how do you rank a site with only lets say 200-300 backlinks for a tough term?

 

Thanks for a great article , now i think i may understand something a bit better

 

If you could show examples, I could tell you how.

-Michael

 

I'm not sure if or how PR helps Serps but I know results when I see them via Backlinks. I was 3rd or 4th link on google for the term "Golf Scramble" for a long time - then I submitted my link to like 500 web directories - and now I am #2 on google for Golf Scramble and Golf Scrambles The thing is my PR didn't change (well - i'm not sure yet if it will...) but Backlinks definitely help.

 

Hey!

You know how smartpagerank.com sends e-mails out for any domain you sign up with them, when the pagerank changes?

I signed up to watch digitalpoint.com a while ago, and today got an email about it!

Could this mean the update started?

 

i think you had entered your email address b4 i think it is gr8 that the email when there is update if they are spamming then it is not good