I know you all want to say it... we'll there you go - my god... they are the worst ever for trying to get ranked... unreal. I mean we got top ten finally in Yahoo for two major keywords after two plus years of work... Google? Um, about 500th place... we actually had top 50 for these keywords in Google about 6-8 months ago... and then just fell off the charts pretty much... unless Google is waiting to catapult us to the top... they suck badly...