Hi DPers. I was just sitting around thinking, and I put together a "wish list" of everything I would like to have from google. GOOGLE WISH LIST ************** <b>Adwords csv dump.</b> All adwords, all campaigns, all bids. This should include words without clicks. Adwords, everywhere a searchphrase appears, should be a "suggestion" icon that triggers a popup with suggested related words. Or two icons -- one for more specific, one for "similar". More information for adsense referrals. For instance, a "searchphrase context" field. Referral info would also be nice. Helps adwords buyers customize content for landing pages. Automatic clustering of adwords wordlists. IE, give google 100,000 word list, say we want ten clusters, google makes a suggestion. Not sure if this is possible but it would be nice to have. Friendly adwords api to allow automated adwords account checking/bid increases. Time of day click management. People are forced to use tools like gotoast to do campaign management. This hurts less well capitalized businesses, and doesn't really help big businesses. It only helps the despicable parasite tool makers like gotoast. It's undemocratic. Open the api and let the open source perl/php/python communities build tools that everybody can use. Google should offer brandable/licensable tools. Like what already exists for branded search, but way stronger, and across all products segments. Eg, gmail should be brandable, maybe even with api. IE, nonprofits could provide branded gmail accounts, and then share in the adwords click revenue. Users could decide which "nonprofit" to log into. PS, gmail should work with imap. Fix googlegroups, make it the best newsbrowser. Integrate with gmail for newsbrowsing. Is google aware of adwords revenue sharing, eg digitalpoint/thinkbling? How about googlegroups with revenue sharing? Make google search less of a black box. EG, we know there are authority pages, a la localsearch/hilltop, but they are not identified as such, forces seo/webmasters to guess. Prbar is stupid, it stresses webmaster out but doesn't really give useful infos. Our scheme of basing link buying based on combination of serps/adwords price. Allow people to license and customize google search with pagerank/hilltop filters. IE, if there is a page with high google pagerank/authority score that is obviously a spammer page, a google licensee could provide google searches that return results as though this was PR null. The google filters are broken and may not be fixable. So, allow third parties to license and make their own filters. Want to stop cloaking? Make a nocache/no index policy. Then people that seo-cloak would know that they can't hide their tactics and will be immediately copied. Right. I think that covers it! thomas.
The problem with disclosing or licensing their algorithm, that will never, EVER happen. That is what makes Google valuable. There would be WAY more spam than there is now if Google starts defining how they determine relevancy for people.
Shawn, Agree, but that isn't quite what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting more transparency, not 100% transparency. Right now we have the prbar, which is somewhat useless. I'm suggesting something that allows people to set up filters which would return google results AS IF a particular site were PR0. Such search google with a filter sites would have google ads, probably there would be a revenue share. Google wins because people use their search, actually their search is better because it has been manually screened for spam. The filter maintainer share in ad revenue. Google does not have to explain how their algorithm works. Sure people would use this to reverse engineer google, but this is already happening, and I think google could withstand it. Sounds at least theoretically possible to me. Could be really cool. Could be dangerous too. Religious fanatics could subscribe to filters that PR0 sites that contract their worldview, etc. Hey I like it. Is anybody at google listening?
Wishlists look best like this: Open algorithm Google should open their .... Better X Google should ... It just makes for much easier reading (easier on the eyes) But that's just me
Trust me, the disclosing of their algorithms (at any level) is never going to happen. What would Google have to gain from it? What would end users using Google have to gain from it? The only people that would gain are people trying to artificially boost their rankings.
When is "google should disclose their algorithm" on the wish list? Are you referring to this? "Allow people to license and customize google search with pagerank/hilltop filters. IE, if there is a page with high google pagerank/authority score that is obviously a spammer page, a google licensee could provide google searches that return results as though this was PR null. The google filters are broken and may not be fixable. So, allow third parties to license and make their own filters." I don't think this is disclosing an algorithm, any more than the google prbar is disclosing an algorithm. Are we going around and around in a circle? thomas.
I don't get it. Why? I will think about it on my bike ride home. Maybe you or another DPer can clear it up. Anyway I had a lot of other ideas, curious what others think about them. Forget the darn licensed filter filter if we just go around in a circle. thomas.
What I would REALLY like from google is for me to specificy that I am looking for pages that contain term1, term2 and term3 ALL WITHIN THE SAME PARAGRAPH !!!!! That would really rock. It sucks when you search for 3 words and the pages returned have those words scattered all over the page, not even relating to each other at all. Of course there is the "phrase match" option but that is TOO specific so it misses out loads of good stuff