GOOGLE wierd Good/Bad WIERD

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Lawsuit, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. #1
    Ok guys, this is very very wierd, so far only MSN has done a good job of indexing our 3 month old site (PerfectGamers.NET) but google seems to be trying very hard to index, just look at this: http://www.google.com/search?q=perf...D,GGLD:2005-10,GGLD:en&start=90&sa=N&filter=0

    Is our sites meta tag to blame for this filtering they are doing to the site, the only way you can see our site on google is if you click show omitted searches, are we hidden because we are in the sandbox or because google doesn't like our meta tag, just click on one of the links that are listed (they look like just URL's no descriptions or titles for some reason) and check the meta tag on one of them, thank you extremely much for this.

    Thanks again, incase I wasn't clear enough though, my question is are we omitted because were in sandbox (we are 3 1/2 months old) or because the meta tag we used is improper THANKS AGAIN AND AGAIN I am not posting this question at any other forums as I know digital point is all I need to ask because everyone is so helpful here, thanks again :)
     
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  2. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Weird stuff!
     
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  3. Lawsuit

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    #3
    Uh, ok thanks but I still need help...
     
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  4. fryman

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    #4
    You can't expect google to index your whole site in a couple of months. It takes several deep crawls from the bots before you start getting pages well indexed.
     
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  5. Lawsuit

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    No no thats not the point did you click on my link? They index but just the url, thats it... is my meta tag wrong, if it's my fault i want to fix it, thanks for the fast reply your a very helpful fryman I cant tell you how much I appriciate this.
     
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  6. fryman

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    There is nothing wrong with your site, just give it more time, Google is very slow.
     
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  7. Lawsuit

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    Okie Dokie, let's hope so, thanks so much, what about Yahoo!, I had about 700 pages indexed with them and they yanked me off there site, only MSN loves me should I wait on Yahoo! too?
     
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  8. fryman

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    Yahoo is doing some weird stuff, many sites have had their pages shaved and then come back.
     
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  9. Lawsuit

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    Ok, thanks very much, I will just wait/backlink/wait -_- but wow, MSN is a very nice search engine, our site is a very high quality site, MSN understands this and not only does PerfectGamers.net win but so does MSN, they are linking a very high quality site if people find our site they will stay (gamers that is) I mean theres like a 17% bookmarking rate on our site, it's a fact that people always seem to find there way back and MSN is smart to know this :)

    Anyways thanks!
     
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  10. jlawrence

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    If it was such a high quality site, you wouldn't be pointing out to people that the adsense helps pay for the site.
     
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  11. minstrel

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    #11
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...GGLD:2005-10,GGLD:en&q=site:perfectgamers.net

    1. it's a forum
    2. it's relatively new but you already have over 200 pages indexed by Google
    3. it's vBulletin and I suspect not optimized beyond the out-of-the-box installation
    4. you have very few backlinks to this site at present
    5. you are instructing Google not to cache the pages (common for forums)

    <head>
    	<!-- no cache headers -->
    	<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache" />
    	<meta http-equiv="Expires" content="-1" />
    	<meta http-equiv="Cache-Control" content="no-cache" />
    	<!-- end no cache headers -->
    	<title>Forums - Perfect Gamers - Play with Perfection</title>
    	<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />
    <meta name="generator" content="vBulletin 3.0.3" />
    <meta name="keywords" content="Game, Forum, Forums, Gaming, Gamers, Perfect, Arcade" />
    <meta name="description" content="Perfect Gamers is a Game Forum where people can talk about the latest games in our forum." />
    
    Code (markup):
    I'd say you're not doing too badly for a new forum...

    That's actually not AdSense -- it's Clicksor. I've never used Clicksor or even read the TOS so I don't know if that's a problem or not, although I would assume it is:

     
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  12. jlawrence

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    minstrel - you're correct. Don't know why I thought it was adsense why it clearly states it isn't.
    7steij17 - I humbly appologise for my accusations.
     
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  13. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #13

    I enjoy reading your posts, however you are wrong about the forum no cache header telling google not to index the page. All vB forums have no cache headers on the index page. My site has them on the home page and forum home page and both are indexed just fine and cached.

    Enjoy your new forum.
     
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  14. minstrel

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    I realize that, noppid. I didn't say that was causing his forum not to be indexed -- follow the link I provided and you'll see he has over 200 pages indexed. None are cached because he's instructing google not to cache them. I added that in case he was wondering why...
     
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    Minstrel, looking at this paper I see that what that does is prevent your browser from caching the page
    It doesn't say anything about engines. What do you think?

    http://www.pacificnet.net/~johnr/meta.html
     
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    http://www.google.com/intl/en/webmasters/faq.html#cached

    However, I did misread the members "nocache" tag -- the ones included in the quoted code are indeed for browser caching and may not prevent Google from caching the page.
     
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    #17
    You might want to read the posts carefully and think before typing and giving wrong advice.... :rolleyes:

    "I misread"... too arrogant to just say "I was wrong", huh? :D
     
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  18. minstrel

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    fried man, you really are a moron, aren't you? Didn't I just acknowledge that? I did misread / misinterpret it as the robots nocache statement and I acknowledged that your interpretation in this case was correct.

    I know that doesn't happen very often in your case. Just let me know how many times I should post that before your little helmeted ego is happy, okay?
     
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    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    Rotfflmfao!
     
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  20. Lawsuit

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    Thanks for all the help guys but I have one more question:

    My question is, if the no cache is on how do I turn it off? I am not even sure if it's on or off because there seems to be a debate, once you figute out if http://perfectgamers.net has nocache on or off if it's on please just tell me how to turn it off, thank you very much guys.

    *I bow to you all* Thank you again
     
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