google vs. yahoo

Discussion in 'Google' started by bibel, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. #1
    I have been working on my website for about 4 months now (adding content, submitting to directories), and i can't seem to get it out of the supplemental results (90%) of my indexed pages come up as supplemental results. Also, i have no results for "link:" command.

    On yahoo i have less pages indexed (1700) , no supplementals, ofcourse :) , and about 7000 inlinks from related sites.

    I have read all the topics on "getting out of the supplementals", but i still can't find a solution. I saw an idea was to add links to my supplemental pages, but that's unreasonable because i have 10 000 pages.

    The question is : will anything change when google finally ads those links to my site ? Or when I'll get a pagerank ?
     
    bibel, Dec 20, 2006 IP
  2. kh7

    kh7 Peon

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    #2
    Hi, sounds like your site is in what people call 'the sandbox'. The thing to do is just keep building your site, keep building relevant links and wait it out.

    [this thread should be in the SEO section, by the way]
     
    kh7, Dec 21, 2006 IP
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    jimkarter Notable Member

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    I think sandbox and supplemental results are two totally different things. There may be many reasons for pages being supplemental. It has nothing to do with PR or sandbox.
     
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    WOW?! 10000 pages. That's great
     
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  5. kh7

    kh7 Peon

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    #5
    Actually that sounds a bit suspicious: how many of those pages are unique content? Versus: how many are scraped off other sites? If the majority of content is also present on older websites that actually published it first, that content is unlikely to rank well any time soon.
     
    kh7, Dec 21, 2006 IP
  6. bibel

    bibel Active Member

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    very few :(
     
    bibel, Dec 21, 2006 IP
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    #7
    That explains it then: the duplicate content filter.
     
    kh7, Dec 21, 2006 IP
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    thedark Well-Known Member

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    #8
    and probably you got penalized for this, it is not worth the time to do link building if you don't have your own articles.
     
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  9. bibel

    bibel Active Member

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    But i am adding new and unique content daily. Will the entire site be penalized for those duplicate pages ? because this seems to be the case
     
    bibel, Dec 21, 2006 IP
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    similar situation with few of my sites

     
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  11. kh7

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    Well, four months old is young. Your site has zero trust right now. Keep building useful, unique content and links to those specific pages. That will get google to notice those pages specifically.
    Think wikipedia for instance. Since I noticed people trying to translate my Dutch page on wikipedia links, I translated the article into english: http://www.katinkahesselink.net/internet/wikipedia-links.html

    Assuming the pages you copied are useful - make absolutely sure your site-structure is unique (and useful), even if most of the content isn't. You may be able to rank your 'index' type pages before you rank specific content pages. This will also help assure that those few visitors you do have will return to your site.
    In short: make the best of the worst and count on taking your time to rank well.
     
    kh7, Dec 22, 2006 IP
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    parusa619 Banned

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    #12
    Unique content can help you avoid supplemental results.

    Yes, you'll get higher "Return on investment", you'll get a pagerank if you build links in high PR directories
     
    parusa619, Dec 22, 2006 IP
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    To help you further we have to see your site. Do you have a good internal link-structure in there?
     
    kh7, Dec 22, 2006 IP
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    candid_kris Banned

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    More links may give you a pagerank, depending on the site where you put your link
     
    candid_kris, Dec 22, 2006 IP