Hi, I have been reading digitalpoint forums for almost a year and have learnt lots, Thanks. One thing that is puzzling me is that I have tried to optimise my alternative sites and it seems to work great. I can get position 1 - 5 on Yahoo, Live etc but only no 15 or so on Google. I realise that Googles algorithm is different but can anyone tell me what I am missing? Is it just that G puts more emphasis on back links? Or something else? The site I have been playing with is www.blackpool-holidayflats.net and keywords 'Blackpool Holiday Apartments' or 'blackpool holiday flats' Anyone any ideas??? Thanks