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Discussion in 'Google' started by dfsweb, Oct 6, 2004.

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  1. TLDTrader.com

    TLDTrader.com Peon

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    #41
    Several of my PR6 pages, internal and index pages, went down to PR5 :)

    Well, life goes on :p
    SEMrush
     
    TLDTrader.com, Oct 6, 2004 IP
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  2. dfsweb

    dfsweb Active Member

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    #42
    I've seen a PR change for a site that I haven't worked on for ages. It contains around 6 pages :D and apart from 2 of the pages, the content hasn't really changed for a few months. Anyway, it's gone from a PR1 to PR2.

    Anyway, there's hardly any content of most of the pages. But, one of the pages that changes frequently is also showing as PR2, although it has a link from a PR1 page from my site (and no external links)??? And, another page that hasn't changed at all for months is showing as a PR3 (although I expected this to be a PR1, as the home page is a PR2). This page doesn't have any external links either. :eek:

    So, I reckon that the PR algo has changed this time around and that the "new PR algo" has got quite a high rating for content, as the PR3 page has got a looooong list with lots of text. Can the others who have seen internal pages with higher PR than the home page check to see if these internal pages have heaps of content??
     
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  3. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    #43
    I was actually thinking the PR was showing a higher PR for my pages with more content too- thought it was just a coincidence though?
     
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  4. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #44
    Hmm..
    I'm seeing internals correcting as expected (ie PR propagating via structure as expected, rather than lagging as they had been). Nothing over the top tho, about 10,000 PR 3's - (were PR 2).

    I have a couple of pages that do have more content than the rest, but no changes in PR there.

    I expected a little more than this, but then it aint over yet :)

    ---- edit ----

    The pages that saw increased PR have zero external backlinks. Purely internal. I'm not sure if anyone finds that interesting as yet.. :)

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  5. TLDTrader.com

    TLDTrader.com Peon

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    #45
    Now this is making sense :)

    The pages I lost PR are mostly "contact" pages with very limited content.

    TOS and FAQ pages, which naturally have "sufficient" content, maintained or increased their PR.

    So that's it. Let's get more content :p
     
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  6. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #46
    Don't jump to conclusions about a supposed new pr algo - I think you will find things have updated from a snapshot taken maybe a month ago and is still based on what it was before. PR is mathematics: serps are based on algos not pr.
     
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    jebby Active Member

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    #47
    My best PR increase was on a site that has NO backlinks, 6 pages with barely any content. The content that is there is extremely stale; it hasn't changed in months. I have no idea why it went from PR0 to PR5???!!!
     
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    jebby Active Member

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    #48
    I should also mention that this site has had no SEO done on it. There are barely any text links (most are images), no site map, and all the pages have the same title. Go figure.
     
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  9. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #49
    MSN small business directory went up to an 8 (from a 7)
    Sevenseek went up to a 7 (from a 0)
     
    Dominic, Oct 6, 2004 IP
  10. TLDTrader.com

    TLDTrader.com Peon

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    #50
    I know of a site that has no reported backlinks. Meaning Google doesn't show any sampling of its back links. but the site has IBLs. It is a PR5.
     
    TLDTrader.com, Oct 6, 2004 IP
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    jebby Active Member

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    #51
    I can't think why anybody would have linked to this site. It has pretty narrow appeal.
     
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  12. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #52
    Certainly looks like a move but DigitalPoints keyword tracker is still showing the old page rank and backlink info. Looks like the API still points to old data.

    I have pages using ThinkBling's data and they are showing the change too.
    http://sarahk.pcpropertymanager.com/muck/prank.php
    http://www.pcpropertymanager.com/wsnlinks/prank.php

    Most of my new pages have stayed under the PR4 threshold (work to do...) and either the backlinks haven't been updated or the old PR4 rule still stands.

    Sarah
     
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    Fishing Forum Active Member

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    #53
    Well none of my sites have changed :mad:

    Why - I do not know , even the one in the ad network

    Just my luck
     
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  14. yfs1

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    #54
    I went from a 4 to a 5 woohoo

    Of course one of my lesser used sites went from a 4 to a 0 :mad:
     
    yfs1, Oct 7, 2004 IP
  15. Dirkjan

    Dirkjan The Dutch SEO Guy

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    #55
    can anybody confirm if it is updated internationally or only for .com sites? My .nl sites still have the same google ranking (0!) I guess and they are in Google for months!
     
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    SEbasic Peon

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    #56
    Yeah, I have a .co.uk that went up...
     
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    Weirfire Language Translation Company

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    #57
    I have seen no change in pages that already have PR. Although a lot of my internal pages went from PR 0 to PR 4.

    What is really strange is that my newish site www.jewellery-design.co.uk received PR3's for all it's internal pages and stayed at PR0 for it's home page even though this is the page that I've been getting backlinks for. Maybe it's just not totally updated yet?? :confused:
     
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    #58
    That is pretty weird Weirfire. Can't see how/why though would have happened.
     
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    #59
    It's a real messed up update - The algo has drastically changed... I don't know how yet, but it has...

    There have been quite a few people saying similiar to WeirFire... I wonder what is the distinguishing factor in all of this?
     
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    Weirfire Language Translation Company

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    #60
    What is the site that you can check the PR from different servers?
     
    Weirfire, Oct 7, 2004 IP
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