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Google Sitemaps

Discussion in 'Google Sitemaps' started by digitalpoint, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. john1970

    john1970 Guest

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    #41
    Any indication that submitting an xml sitemap will result in a faster indexing of a new site?
    SEMrush
     
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  2. TwisterMc

    TwisterMc Mac Guru

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    #42
    Thanks for that! I missed that simple way of doing things. :D
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #43
    I can't say with any certainty that submitting my sitemap yielded Googlebot's recent crawl today, but Google has been on my site all morning/afternoon.
     
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  4. exam

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    #44
    I'd prolly be pretty easy to make your dynamic page generation update your mysite.urls file with all the dynamic urls.....
     
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  5. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #45
    I'm sure it'd probably would be. I'd love to see one for vbulletin sites. I'm not a programmer, however. :)
     
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  6. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #46
    I was wondering the same thing, John.

    Googlebot crawls my forum site several hundred times a week -- only slightly less often for my main site -- do I need really need any more attention than that?

    My guess is this might be a way to increase crawling of sites where it isn't already happening, like new sites... where it is, I doubt there's a benefit. Maybe think of it as a "Submit" button for new sites.
     
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  7. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #47
    For some reason Google doesn't seem too keen on crawling my site all that often (and it's fairly well established going on 4 years now). I submitted my sitemap, and bam, seemed almost like an instant crawl. Again, though, I can't comment one way or another that this was a direct result, so take that for what it's worth.
     
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  8. iMacFlats

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    #48
    I have the ultimate test... I have a site that I put online on May 27th. I submitted it to Google, but no results as of yet. Other than a quick "look and see" with a request for a robots.txt file, Googlebot has not been back.

    Let's see if it gets sucked into the ranks or gets ignored.
     
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  9. NewComputer

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    #49
    I cannot seem to get the above set of instructions to work. Any idea?
     
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  10. NewComputer

    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    #50
    Sorry guys, I lied....

    I created the file and made the extension .html...

    Here is my experience:

    As some of you may know, I have recently updated my computer repairs website . I actually completed the overhaul yesterday. Obviously, Google was not visiting the new urls because I changed all the extensions and how the domains read (I moved from _ to - and .htm to .html + I added more SE friendly names.)

    Anyways, longer story long, since I submitted the new 'sitemap', Google has indexed every single one of my new pages as a result.

    This is purely coincidental that they release this tool with my overhaul release, but this is the proof it works...

    A google search for "Contact NewComputer.ca using the below information" which is text never used on any of my other pages revealed the following:
    Google Search
     
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  11. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #51
    Are you saying that you were indexed because of your new site map you submitted using their new site map tool within the last 30 minutes?
     
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    #53
    oops...i learned some python in last 3 hours with google provided python files to create sitemap
     
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  14. NewComputer

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    #54
    It took a total of 5 hours (from submittal to checking each pages cached copy), but yes, that is what I am saying...

    Check for yourself:

    http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:http://www.newcomputer.ca/site-map.html

    Look at that date, I just finished that page yesterday... I had an old site map with a different extension and different name.
     
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    #55
    Okay! Here is the scoop...

    I submitted a site that is not even in Google index or anything. I originally submitted it a week or two ago, and although the GoogleBot basically did a "ping" of the main site, it didn't do anything with it. It hasn't been back.

    I submitted my XML sitemap last night and google, very quickly, did a "ping" of the sitemap file and that was it. It took 3-5 hours before it showed up that it was "OK". Google has yet to make any attempt to index the site looking at the logs.

    So... submitting a sitemap does not mean instant "indexing" of your site. At least, on my test case, it didn't.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #56
    Indeed it would be hard to imagine that it would be otherwise. It's not likely to be like a dog whistle that will instantly summon googlebot to do your bidding.

    As I think I said earlier, this may be useful for new sites but it's probably best to think of it as a newer better submit button.
     
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    #57
    So if you do the TEXT file version, how do you inform GOOGLE if you change a pages content.

    I guess if you add a new page you just add this to the text file.

    Ian
     
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    #58
    vbsitemap for google

    Working on it
     
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    #59
    In my case, it was most likely that my site was indexed previously, and as such, the new sitemap just meant Google needed to comeback for new content, which they have...
     
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    #60
    I guess, other than the possible "submit" function for new sites, I'm having some difficulty understanding how this is any better than any other site map linked from your home page.
     
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