Google Should have a PR Update Policy to Let all Webmasters know of their everchanging PR senarios which usually leave all of us webmasters in the dark, We are not mind readers and we cant just rely on some other source of professionals to give us some hints or stories why google have either increased pr more on some sites or dropped pr. If google want to be helpful to the webmaster community as its us that make them go around, It would be helpful for them to every 3 months or before the next PR update let us know of what we should do or not do to make our sites google friendly. I am surprised this has not been put in place. Im sick of reading some blog on a site from a third party saying this is what google are planning on doing. Lets just get the real facts from google in their google URL somewhere shall we? Please give all thoughts or suggestions on the idea of having a Google PR Update policy here;
How can we play there game if they dont play our game cmon, Its like giving out rules without saying anything. Its like law inforcement saying you cant drive at 60kms an hour or 40 kms an hour but just drive inbetween there somewhere and we may not penalise your license... apon all the other rules..???? There has to be a guide to stick to from google for all webmasters. If they havent yet done one yet they need to!
They don't want us "playing their game", they want to produce the most relevent search results for any given keyword or phrase. What they don't want is giving clues so us SEOs can artificially inflate our Pagerank and SERPs. Besides, the cat and mouse game is what makes SEO so much fun.
Dan, They have a guideline already. You must remember that Google's main role is to provide quality search results and not to please webmasters.
Yes this guide is for all on page design optimisation, Im talking about PR Rules Guide. (offpage optimisation) Buying links (Yahoo Directory Links) PR5 site : lose pr1 PR5 site : x 10 : win PR+1 etc.... Exchange links PR3-PR2 win pr1 Outgoing links; link to pr0 sites : lose pr1 link to old domain : neautral link to new site: lose pr.05 Outgoing links: "Nofollow": usage = etc.etc
They are not interested in teaching you how to get PR. If they told you rules, people would just do more of what they are doing, buying links just for PR. Basically just create a good site with good content and build good quality links and shoot for traffic not PR. A PR0 site with 1000 visitors a day is worth more than a PR7 with 100 visitors a day unless you goal is to sell links.
You are not suppose to buy links for the purpose of increasing your PR. They have made this very clear. You are not suppose to exchange links for the purpose of increasing your PR. They have made this very clear. Again PR isnt a judge of a good website and if were really into this information, you can have a look at their patents. Nofollow usage is for links from your site that you do not want to give credit for as per their page in their Webmasters Help center. Which by the way took me 5 seconds to search for ... err.. on Google. Actually a lot of information is in the help center but some webmasters do not want to read and research and even if they do, some are unwilling to accept it. Seems you are asking them to give you advice on things that they have made clear webmasters should not do. If you want to ask these questions the answer will be 'Dont do it.' Just my 2 cents.
o'come on mate, If they do so core purpose of PR algorithm will be ruined. I don't believe someone expects these things from Google. Please get real.
Where have they made this clear? Show me the link from google. Where have they made this clear? Show me the link from google.
They don't have to make it clear...it's common sense. If the whole goal is to provide the most relevant search results and people are out there buying links to boost their MFA site in the SERP's...that's not going to make the results any better. Also, they don't have to tell you anything. Google makes their money from advertising and advertising dollars come from their ability to provide the most accurate ads for the most relevant search results. The only wemasters who should obsess over PR are those who make a living off of Toolbar PR selling links. And you're in that boat, then you already know what you need to do. Also, the PR at Google is always changing and therefore it would make absolutely no sense for them to update you every 3 months. In order for your suggestion to be applied effectively, Google would have to constantly update you on the status of your PR...and that isn't going to happen. Don't worry about factors that you're unable to control like PR. Instead, focus on things you can control such as the quality of content you're providing visitors.
Hey fun is only a small part of it. We are all here to make serious money on the net and most of us rely on high traffic. With high PR and High Alexa rankings we are bound for sucess and everyone knows no-one wants to link to sites that are lower pr than them, so what im saying is why not have the correct requirements in order to achieve pr honestly from the founders of pr themselves?
BINGO!!! this is my point, they are changing every 3 months, how the hell on earth can we adjust to them accordingly if we dont know what requirements they have changed? Again we are not mind readers. PS. Comon sense, yes i am well aware of that, and I am happy about my rankings, but would always like to make it better and better
They are exporting PR every 3 months or so...but it's always changing on their end. They already tell you what you need to do...it says it in their guidelines (which was posted above). What you're looking for is a clear cut approach to manipulating their PR system...and they won't give it to you. Can you imagine what would happen to Google if they told people that getting links from site "X" would increase your PR by "Y". Or remove "2" reciprocal links and link to one old domain and you're PR will increase? All of the info you need to know is already out there and we know that it works because people have seen results. Those who jumped from a PR0 to a PR7 did not have a conference call with Larry Page...they just know what they're doing. You're not a mind reader...i agree. You're a webmaster who should be out there providing quality content to your visitors because that's what it's all about.
If google will reveal on how to increase PR then all webmasters would be paranoid and would do everything just to increase PR without the quality that google's needed.
rzvagelsky: I can understand your point and agree with you on the fact that yes if we knew all about how to increase pr it would wipe out others, but isnt all this what its all about, I mean think about it, If you knew that etc. than basically you deserve to wipe out your competitor becuase youve been doing your homework, and on the other hand you can still be down from the algorithims too becuase google could than implement a scheme that also keeps us down in the PR apon other factors, but still keep us up to date with pr chage requirements
You make a completely invalid point. Google should strive to approach and measure the web in a scientific manner, meaning that you must make a measurement while trying not to change the result by doing so. They DONT WANT you to be aware of the measurement, as they do not want the web to adjust itself in order to be measured by it. In a perfect world, Google wouldn't even want the web to be aware of it's spiders, as the mere presense of spiders might change the navigational structure of sites. But this isn't a perfect world, so there are sitemaps, robots.txt and metas, but full disclosure will greatly hurt results, and increase the SEO impact on SERPS.
Here's an example for you. Many webmasters forget about their internal linking structure and only focus on getting links to their site. This is huge mistake and a lot of PR is wasted and/or not transfered properly because of it. When it comes to internal linking, there are tons of scenarios out there to work with. Have you studied all of them and optimized your site accordingly? These are basics that everyone should be using but many don't because they are blinded by Toolbar PR.