Google seems to be dancing

Hey J what are you using to check your kw locations , I know im deviating form the topic a little but be interesting to know , as mines been sandboxed for 6 months its gutting


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What else would we use but the DigitalPoint Keyword Tracker?
Okay, maybe the tool at http://www.googlerankings.com/ sometimes...

 

oki doki silly me , i used to a couple oif commercial checkers but seo reporting killed my connection 56 k lol long gone the times now 2mb thanks by the way :0)

 

Somebody try this for a dropped kw/kw phrase...
(for 'web hosting paypal' in my case)
inanchor: 59
intext: 89
intitle: 81
TOTAL 229
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AVERAGE 76
+ old position 15
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91

Current rank: 96

Pretty close. Surely it couldn't be that simple...

Edit: Very interesting as well:
allinanchor: 5
allintext: 6
allintitle: 4
TOTAL 15
--------------
AVERAGE 5
+ above 91
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96

Weird...

 

I use a combination of various tools:
Scripts I've written myself, McDAR's tools, DP keyword tracker.
The DP tracker is good once you hit the top 200 but before then you need to use either McDARs or your own script.
I have various commercial tools which can probably do keyword tracking, but I prefer tracking tools to be server based and ain't no way I'm putting a windows server in

 

NetMidWest: I don't think it's that simple
inanhor: 87
intext: 62
intitle: 66
allinanchor: 3
previous rank: 4
current rank: 96

 

So making an assumption that google is discounting specific anchor targeting links, that appear to be paid links.

If the text of the links are changed, would google automatically give weight back to those links or are those links from the specific site put in a google links trash can.

Theoretically if the text was changed so that it no longer registered to be a paid or offending link, then google would give weight back to the link. Google seems to like to keep things completely automated, so I would assume that there is a way to get weight back to the links...

 

j-
inanchor: 87
intext: 62
intitle: 66
AVERAGE 72
+ PREV RANK 4
-------------
76

Currently: 96
-76
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20

What do your allinanchor: allintext: and allintitle: average out to?

 

Since at this point, no one but Google really knows what the heck is going on, speculating about solutions to something that may not even be a problem seems premature to me.

Unless you have been doing something known to be frowned on by Google, my advice is do nothing out of the ordinary until the dust clears. You have as much chance of making things worse as you do of making things better.

 

By far this is the best post this thread has seen. Agreed!

 

Allinanchor: 3
Allintext: 4
Allintitle: 3


edit: I agree with Minstrel. You can make assumptions, but if you make the mistake of turning those assumptions into conclusions then you could well come to regret it.
At the mo, I'm tending to agree with Caryl that this is might just be a incident caused by G loosing some data.

 

Uhh... this isn't "Minstrel's theory". I don't want to wade through the last 51 pages again to find out who said it but it wasn't me...

 

As usual, Minstrel gives some sane advice. Don't panic yet. Give it a few days here. It seems to be pretty stable right now, but who knows what'll happen later on.

I almost have a feeling that inheritance of links has changed. It used to be, that if you had a link to your widgets page; your blue widgets page would also get some benefit - albeit a lot less. Seems like that's not quite the case now. One of my good phrases "birdhouses" dropped from 2 to 9. A very minor related term "log cabin birdhouses" moved from 1 to 31 or something. I work on getting links to the main page, but not to the secondary page. Either inbounds are not counting as much or the inbound links are not giving as much weight to other pages on the site.

Could be, that with the "surge" of everyone getting as many links as they possibly can, google has had to lower the value of each one that is incoming to try and keep the SERPs a little honest, thus raising the "price tag" on top rankings.

 

My bad... it was mjewel...
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=375250&postcount=392

 

I'm not one to panic even if this permanent. More of a figure out what needs to be done, and get it done.

I have always tried to get links into the inner pages of my sites in addition to the homepage. My inner pages have dropped as well, but many of them still remain near the top. The weird thing is, that there really isn't any logic that I can find to why some pages fell, and why others stayed near the top. It makes me think that there may be several factors that have been rolled into this update.

 

Don't take my weird math too serious... still, within 17... adding allinurl: to the allin average keeps it at 5 for me...

I do agree with Caryl, more and more, especially looking at my crawls. It's like they are trying to catch up or something.

Anybody else found some wrongly attributed internal links yet? Where a page linked to is outranking the expected page for a term?

Sounds kinda similar...

 

If thats the case I'll be a lot higher in google serps ;-)

 

Question: Given that some of us have limited time to devote to link building, is it best to concentrate on building links to the home page, to the inner pages, or to a mix of both?

 

IF this were an UPDATE

Please explain what functions, in a well thought out algorithum, would produce these results within 3 subsequent days

10/16/2005 position #11
10/17/2005 position #753
10/18/2005 position #26

A formula will return the same results EVERY time

UNLESS

The values fed into the formula change.

For some reason, the information regarding my page has been different each of the three days.

Thus the different results.

Caryl

 

Given the previous 51 pages of people saying that they basically don't know wtf is going on. DO you seriously expect anyone to give you an answer to the question at this time and be able to back it up with reasoning ?
If you're willing to accept an answer which isn't backed up, then build links to everything .