Google seems to be dancing

But isn't this how it has always been with Google? Right around update time all the shit floats to the top. So you see sites for a few weeks that have absolutely no legitimate reason to be on top; at the top. Once all the "shit" floats to the top, it is skimmed off and what's left are the good sites.

Anyway, this is what I have always noticed. Of course not all "shit" seems to float YMMV.

 

Depends on how much fiber is in the diet

 

May I suggest some digestive enzymes?

 

Well hopefully the shit can get scrapped away soon but somehow I doubt it.
This is going to go on for quite a while longer yet I think.
I only got hit today, others have been being hit for a week. Hopefully it won't go on for too much longer.

 

Any reason why Google doesn't announce such occurences to the public so that we don't all panic or do they just delect in the power that they have and the chaotic posting that occurs while the word "Google" is in the forefront of our brain all week...and then, when we're ready to hate them with every ounce of energy in our body, they "fix" things and then we love them again..

All the while they sit in their boardroom giggling like school girls.

But I digress.

 

Because SEO webmasters are about 0.0001% of Google's public.

I watched my wife surf and use Google last night and she didn't react like anything had changed. She, and a lot of other people, discovered the internet when spam was already well established in the search engines.. so flipping through a number of pages to find a relevant result is normal behaviour. Personally, I've switched my Firefox default search.

 

I just noticed on one of my sites that is in the sandbox that I have disappeared from my #4 position for allinanchor which I have had for the past several months plus. Another site I have for the same keywords which I haven't really promoted is showing up on the second page.

Also saw someone mention google.de at WMW and I checked it out. Seeing some different rankings for a couple of keywords where I was seeing pretty solid and settled rankings for the last few days.

 

A question for those who have dropped, have you lost your brand name? such as domain.com your google results for just the domain? I have not which in my eyes from previous experience is a GOOD thing! About the only good thing I've noticed so far from this current shift.

 

Eh, hrblcantra, I'm not sure what you're asking...

 

I have sites that run 100% YPN, 100% adsense, a combination of both, and sites with no advertising and the recent google shift in rankings has affected some of each. My best adsense site happened to be the most negatively affected site.

While from a pure financial perspective, it would make sense that google would financially gain from having sites with adsense rank higher, as a public company there are huge legal implications from doing so- at least directly. Google has publically stated that their search results are organic and it would only take one disgruntled employee to blow the whistle on them and subject the founders to losing billions of dollars. They would also do great damage to their search engine reputation.

While anything is possible, I think google is smarter than that and do not believe there is any correlation in rankings. Having public company experience, I know policy changes of this magnitude would require a public disclosure in advance of implementation.

 

Your brand name, say for google for example you search for 'google' and the google domain should be brought up on position #1
such as
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-26,GGLD:en&q=google
google.com is brought up for #1 of the brand name Google.
From my experience when getting an actual penalty in many cases you lose your brand name, such as going down from #1 for your brand name to #5 or lower. So far however I am not seeing any brand name loss, which I hope is a glimmer of hope for us all

----edit this method however only realy works for long standing sites, and of course is not 100% accurate.

 

i'm page two for my brand name

without the "www" right?

 

Well... a search for 'www.netmidwest.com' brings up a cached page from the 16th at #1 with the title I had that day... switched it the 17th if I remember right. A search for 'netmidwest' brings up a link titled 'NetMidWest' (from the dmoz, been doing that for awhile) but says the cache from the 15th... yet clicking on 'Cached' brings up the page reported as the 16th...
Hmmm.

 

netmidwest is showing #1 and #2 position for me which I believe to be a good thing. Again just speculation, but points out a temporary flux from my experience or at least crossing my fingers.

Yep without www.

I should also point out makes a difference if your domain is a true brand name, or if it's a generic brand name such as car 'generic' and digitalpoint more of an actual brand name. Not trying to confuse anyone, trying to see if we can figure this out as I don't believe this is just a standard shift as some have pointed out. Could be their site just hasn't been effected yet, or possibly theirs will not be at all, but something is going on above the norm.

 

well i'm looking up "nintendorevolution" so that would explain it

 

Don't see your logic there.
If a site near the top gets dropped, all sites below move up 1 place.
So you get 1 person experiencing a huge drop, and everyone just sees small fluctuations.

Has anyone seen a whole bunch of big jumps for their keyphrases - like when you're released from the sandbox.

 

my bet is no gets out of the sandbox

the top sites get another notch older

 

Still ranking fine for brand name.

For my industries, I am seeing a big shift in rankings for some terms and not much for others. I am seeing a lot more informational supersite pages, and ebay listings and crap for the terms with a big shuffle.

 

I think one thing people fail to consider is that when there are millions of pages for a relevant listing and only 1000 are displayed, that it is possible for there to be 1000s and 10000s of thousands of relevant pages out there to fill in the holes when others fall out.

I know we all think are sites are the most relevant and best matches for our chosen keywords. But this idea that if you fall out of the rankings you are only going to be replaced by some trash site is unlikely to always be true.

 

True enough. But iit's how you get to that spot that counts.