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Google seems to be dancing

Discussion in 'Google' started by SERPalert, Oct 12, 2005.

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  1. mcdar

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    #281
    I have started a poll Thread - please drop by and vote.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=33442

    I in no way mean to imply that Google is manipulating results for adwords/profit. My thinking is that (again) if Google lost data/records that they may be cached/stored in groups similar to Googles Directory Categories.
    SEMrush
    Thanks,
    Caryl
     
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  2. Aok

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    #282
    Actually, now that I looked into it more and ran some searches in Google, my pages are all ranking much worse, many not evern found in the top 50 where last week they were in the top 5 (I am talking about a commercial site of mine) - I sure hope this is true:

     
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  3. TheHoff

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    #283
    Sorry, I did not. I'm not much of a spreadsheet data collector, but that is one term I watch daily. It was a very obvious shift.. the entire top 10 for "vbulletin" moved from including 4 vBulletin services and advice sites to only listing large vBulletin forums.
     
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    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #284
    Could this be a devaluation of anchor text from forums? That would certainly fall into line with what I am seeing. Again it is pure conjecture on my part, nothing too scientific. Is hould say footer links on forums to be more precise.
     
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  5. TheHoff

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    #285
    That matches with the vBulletin shift. The pages that got dropped depended on IBLs from forums. They all likely had an unnatural linking structure in Google's eyes-- sitewide links in forum footers is how the skin and service sites were ranking. Nearly 100% of my IBLs (naturally) come from sites using my skins which include a link in the footer.
     
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  6. gford

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    #286
    Hard to say isn't it? But they may be devalueing forum links in general or footer links in general, or anchor text. It's all conjecture and hard to nail down (for now) the cause.
     
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  7. jestep

    jestep Prominent Member Premium Member

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    #287
    From my observing, it looks like sites that actively optimize or appear to optimize are being hit the hardest. Also, looking through my link exchange partners this morning, 10 - 15% are completely banned in google.

    Alexa - PR0
    Amazon - PR0
    'www'.shopping.com - PR0, shopping.com - PR6
    shopping.hp.com - PR0

    Something major is definitely going on, and I don't think it is anywhere near over. Since a toolbar PR update is due, Google's results have definitely lost relevancy, and the datacenters are still bouncing around, I don't see any way that it is done with.
     
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  8. Henny

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    #288
    This sux ass, I went from around 8 in serp to 300+ for all my keywords. God I hope this changes back soon.
     
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  9. SERPalert

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  10. Lucky Bastard

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    #290
    My sites aren't relying (or have any that I know of) forum links [and yet that are affected too].
     
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  11. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #291
    Perhaps an adjustment to the third quarter fnancial results???

    We'll know more on the 20th I guess

    Remember Yahoo, Chitika - that bites I assume.
     
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  12. TheHoff

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    #292
    Its all conjecture at this point; and probably premature. Footer / forum link devaluations could be just one part of this new mix. Maybe an all-out assault on what G thinks 'purchased' links look like.. collateral damage would be inevitable.
     
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    #293
    I think maybe Google introduced a new pooper scooper to clean out their sandbox. :)
     
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    #294
    This dance is very strange. The kwt tool shows a huge drop for ½ of my kw's, but McDar's tool shows them all to be at healthy positions in G. So I'm not sure what's going on. The dance seems to be happening daily. One day I lose rankings (only in the kwt) and the next day, they are back. Go figure.
     
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  15. SERPalert

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    #295
    But which is true for the future? DP (API) Or the dc's on Mcdar?
     
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    #296
    Perhaps footer links, but I have no forum links to my sites and they all got hammered.

    -Erik
     
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  17. jestep

    jestep Prominent Member Premium Member

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    #297
    I haven't seen any sites come out of the sandbox on this one. Anyone?
     
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    #298
    anyone else see old cache dates of sites ranking ahead of them/
     
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  19. SERPalert

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    15th October....
     
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    #300
    i see a couple at the 10th of October
     
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