Google says Microsoft/Yahoo together will ruin the Internet

Discussion in 'Google' started by Cadelaf, Feb 4, 2008.

  1. #1
    Take a look at this post.




    Over the next several weeks, we're sure to hear plenty about Microsoft's attempt to buy Yahoo. Yahoo released a statement on Friday indicating that its board would indeed evaluate the deal seriously, saying that it would evaluate Microsoft's and any additional offers closely.


    How does Google feel about all this? Moments ago, Google's top counsel, senior vice president David Drummond posted Google's first official response to the proposed deal, and it has some bite. Drummond asks some questions that are clearly meant to sketch out a dark future should a deal go through:

    "Could Microsoft now attempt to exert the same sort of inappropriate and illegal influence over the Internet that it did with the PC? While the Internet rewards competitive innovation, Microsoft has frequently sought to establish proprietary monopolies—and then leverage its dominance into new, adjacent markets," he writes.

    It isn't an understatement to say that Google apparently opposes this deal. Going for the jugular, Google's Drummond instantly suggests that the Redmond giant could (would?) use unsavory tactics for unfair advantage, ultimately harming the Internet and the very open and innovative environment that's driving it.

    Yet Drummond doesn't explain just how Microsoft could accomplish this. While we all know that Microsoft utilized special OEM pricing deals for Windows to influence those very same OEMs, for instance, it remains unclear on what basis Google sees this threat taking shape online. Where is their new leverage stemming from in this deal?

    Drummond goes on to worry about specific threats, asking if a Microsoft-Yahoo marriage could result in Microsoft extending "unfair practices from browsers and operating systems to the Internet" or if the combination of two webmail and IM giants is unhealthy.

    "Could a combination of the two take advantage of a PC software monopoly to unfairly limit the ability of consumers to freely access competitors' e-mail, IM, and web-based services?," Drummond asks. "Policymakers around the world need to ask these questions—and consumers deserve satisfying answers."

    Google is right to raise these issues, but beginning the discussion with a veiled accusation that Microsoft could unfairly limit the abilities of users to use competing services is a bit strong in the absence of any illustration as to how Microsoft could accomplish this. It's no small feat to hijack the Internet, e-mail and IM, yet Google's Drummond seems to be suggesting that when we think about Microsoft-Yahoo, that's what we ought to be thinking about.

    Is this a reasonable response, or fear mongering? It strikes me as more of the latter, to be honest.

    Source:
    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...osoftyahoo-hookup-will-ruin-the-internet.html
     
    Cadelaf, Feb 4, 2008 IP
  2. alex7xl

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    #2
    Google afraid this alliance :)
     
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  3. peter_anderson

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    #3
    Total agreement with him!
     
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    frankcow Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they're afraid of it. I think they just understand the risks involved, and don't appreciate the options that Microsoft would then have,
     
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  5. astup1didiot

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    The fact is Google is afraid of this buyout, Microsoft would be able to use Yahoo technology along with Live! technology to create a much better search engine algorithm. Remember, Microsoft has the funds and knowledge to move forward and strike at Google, and Google knows it. Google may make more in advertising revenue than Microsoft, but don't forget all the other sources of revenue Microsoft gets. Be on the watch, if this deal does go through and Microsoft puts the right resources, effort and monitary needs into combining Live! and Yahoo! they might give Google a serious run for their money.
     
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  6. stylistics

    stylistics Peon

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    Microsoft and Yahoo are so far behind Google search, but the alliance might mean that Microsoft could mix and match things as well as maybe improve yahoo search. Still though Google is Years ahead of them and I don't think they will change the way search works or have anything breakthrough.
     
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    zippy1nut Well-Known Member

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    Microsoft/YAHOO together could very well level the playing field. When you spend 46 billion dollars you can believe there will be a very strategic business model in place.
     
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  8. brandnewx

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    Google is afraid of serious competition. Monopoly what? Maybe G wants us to think that the deal will kill it. Google itself is ruining the web for forcing all webmasters to put rel="nofollow". This literally wastes millions of dollars worth of bandwidth. It's about time that those scumbags at G got fired.
     
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    I wonder when Google starts advertising heavily their own free products. With few smart moves they can make high revenues from those free products.
     
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    Google is crying about it yet they also taked to Yahoo to see what they could do to help them out! Competition is good for Everyone.
     
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    I think Microsoft won't help anything for Yahoo search algorithm. They are not clever and why do you think Microsoft and Yahoo combination could beat Google's algorithm? Yahoo is doing fine but MSN is sux. Yahoo+MSN(Live)? Wow, of course it is worse than Yahoo's normal algorithm
     
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    A combination of MS and Yahoo is good. I hope to see these two "big bosses" compete with each other. Google will have to think twice if they want to ban someone from their adsense program without reason -> good for all webmasters. Cheer!
     
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  13. Kaizoku

    Kaizoku Well-Known Member

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    Maybe when you buy the next windows, the homepage won't be msn anymore, it will be yahoo?
     
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    As if google is saving internet :mad: increasing adword cost per click every quarter, not doing enough to prevent click frauds, making thousands of webmaster going out of business every month and on top of that they want to prevent webmaster from selling links in their website so that they are forced to buy costly adword clicks from google.
    I hope this microsoft and yahoo deal goes through, which will prevent google to boss around the internet.
     
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    I honestly hope Yahoo/Microsoft ruins Google, it would give me great pleasure to see that.

    Since Google started their paid links garbage, the quality of their search index has deteriorated dramatically. Yahoo's results are really quite good, i just wish they would loose the cluttered homepage.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. You're right on the points. It would be a total pleasure to see Google got crushed and killed by Microsoft/Yahoo.
     
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  17. Kaizoku

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    Google crushed means we lose alot of traffic? because 90% of my SE traffic is from google.
     
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    #18
    Google is worrying over nothing. Yahoo has got nuts on Google as Google's search technology is far superior. Yahoo have been letting themselves slide for too long. Honestly, does anyone even use yahoo anymore?



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  19. Kaizoku

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    Where have you been all these years? Alot of people use yahoo. Atleast more than 100.
     
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    It is the number 1 portal in the world. Are you even aware in how many areas they rank #1 in. SE is not the only thing people use the web for.

    You may want to have a look at this post for the latest Hitwise figures broken down into various categories: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=6406523#post6406523

    Google doesn't even rank for some of those areas.

     
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