Google Sandbox - Fact or Fiction?

Yes, well I've experienced a similar problem with one of my new websites when i was competing for a term with 1.2m competitors - it appeared on the 4th page for 3 days then it completely vanished for just over a week. Now it's on page 3 again, and hoping it will only go up from here!

 

To the believers of the sandbox theory : Update your content regularly and get quality links; you can come out of the sand box and top the SERP

 

I never falled on that
So i don't know that's real exist or just fiction.

Anyway my site used to lost in search engine about 1-2 weeks then come back

 

i concur. never seen it, and launched countless sites, often straight into first page (depending on competitiveness of course) in like 3 days sometimes, last one this weekend, and it's only a holding page waiting for the main site.

blog post about it here

try the search yourselves here

this is possible because we research our keywords properly, and these terms are not highly competitive. launching your site into a highly competitive market and then expecting to be showing in a few months, and blaming the imaginary sandman / box is about as lame as it gets people.

its would be like launching your new olympic sprinting career, not even making it through your hicksville regional heats, and then saying that the world olympic committee penalised you because they were scared of your powers or something

funny, but total bull****

...although on looking it is possible we are sandboxed for * Ibiza* because we are nowhere to be seen

 

Hi there! I'm just a newbie in SEO, how do I know if I'm already in the sandbox?

 

SEOibiza

I have experienced new sites which have shot to the top of the rankings and then disappeared for a while - have you (or anyone else) seen the same?

MB

 

Sem Advance has the correct. No-one's ever managed to produce a single example that checks out anywhere we've ever seen.

SEO Ibiza are confirmed sandbox skeptics. just because others say it exists and pray at the Altar, carries no weight when there is no impirical evidence of any kind. you'll be expecting us to believe in fairies or religion next

 

always. Google promotes new sites high for a few days after launch, they then gradually sink to the true level that their content and link strength gives them naturally.

it depends how good the site is compared to your competitors as to how far it sinks. but because it doesnt stay at the top doesnt mean youre sandboxed, just that you need to start your SEO work to push it back up.

 

I dont know what my problem is, but i've been getting hundreds of google bot hits a month but i still don't have a page indexed in google...

 

that doesnt sound good. url?

 

ipodjam.com

 

Why is your robots.txt:

Remove it.

 

Where do you see that? and where do i go to get rid of that?

 

well spotted

you can see the file here http://ipodjam.com/robots.txt

download it by ftp, delete those 2 lines, upload it again, that'll be your issue

 

Sandbox? hmm im not familiar but ill try to research bout this..THough im familiar with sandbox.

 

I understand the Sandbox effect, even I don't like the fact it exists. Google is a privately owned corporation which can decide on its own what kind of policies to implement. I wouldn't blame them for "Sandbox" because they need to deal with millions of websites and anyone is expecting to get ranked higher.

Google does not exist to bring "Justice for all". It is just a commercial enterprise"... My advice is simple - "Don't care about search engines. Care about people who come to your websites"!

 

I don't know, maybe I was in sandbox, but since it's the first site I made, I had some problems too, that throwed me back in SERPs. So, I really don't know if I was or not in sandbox

 

Fantastic analogy, I will be stealing this line of thought regularly.

 

It appears Google measures links in various ways; number of links, time to build, relevance, quality of site, PR (?). From my observations number and time to build is much more important than relevance or even PR.
I know of sites that rank very well for key phrases that are reasonably competitive and have a range of totally irrelevant sites linking to them - many with moderate PR.
But, the times to build were balanced (not too quick). This, I believe, is the key.

 

Just get links from sites such as techcrunch ,mashable etc.. and you should be out in no time