Google Rank After Open Directory Sumission

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    Wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction. I added my site to Open Directory and it appeared no 1 for my main keyword, but now (approx 1 month later) I have had to resubmit it as it was nowhere to be found! If anyone has any submission tips for a starter such as myself, I would most appreciate this.

    Simon.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #2
    You were listed #1 within Google or within DMOZ?

    - Shawn
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Shawn, can you move sbarkeruk's post to another thread maybe. Seems like a valid thread.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    I thought of that, but that's why I was trying to get clarification... not sure if he is talking about Google or DMOZ yet. :)

    - Shawn
     
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    google, after submitting listing via dmoz.
     
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    Submitting to DMOZ will not affect your Google ranking at all. Once you are listed in DMOZ, you will get a boost, simply because it's a link to you (just like any other link). But if you ranked high in Google immediately following a DMOZ submission, it's purely coincidental.

    - Shawn
     
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    I thought that adding a site to dmoz was the method used to add to google. By this I mean that when reading how to submit a site on google, they say to add it to dmoz. I have obviously got this wrong and am very confused! Can someone explain what is really happening. More importantly, how do I ensure I am listed with Google?

    Simon
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    The only way to get listed with Google is to have links to your site (Google will follow all links it sees).

    You maybe in the Google index already though... What is the domain you are trying to get listed?

    - Shawn
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    Is it possible to get links from other people but without having to link back to them? What strategy would be used to acheive this. I ask this because I do not want to ruin my site by having unsightly links splattered across it! Why would someone link to me if I do not link to them, what incentives are there?
     
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    It depends on if the site owner is willing to do it. Typically you would need very good, unique content that they find useful. That's how cnn.com get their links for example... I'm sure they don't ask individual sites to link to them, but people do anyway.

    - Shawn
     
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    Sbarkeruk,

    The first thing you want to do is add a signature to you profile with a link to your site and some keywords. That will be a one way link to your site.

    I'm sure some of your artists have their own site ask them to put up links to your site if you are selling for them. Ask you buyers to do the same thing if they are happy with what they buy and would recommend you to others.

    As far as links being unsightly this does not have to be the case. You can add several discrete text links at the bottom of a page without spoiling the look. In fact I had a look at your present page and it looks unfinished because the page does not have footer of any kind. Look at the links on the bottom of this page. Do you think they look unsightly?
     
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    The site is just for info at the moment and is not complete in the slightest. The new site will be a total revamp, hopefully putting into practise what I learn here and other places.
    :cool:
     
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    As far as the links on the bottom of the page that you mentioned: Unsightly they are not (as there are a small number of them), but out of the way they are! I did not know they existed until you pointed it out, despite having passed the page many times.
     
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    For purposes of search engines finding them, "out of the way" is fine.

    - Shawn
     
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    And not to forget for the lasy amongst us there is the nice navigation to the top.
    Comes in handy on an old IBM LapTop with no wheely mouse.
    M
     
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    re more links
    in another webmaster and SE forum yesterday i found the information that for google PR ranking only links FROM sites with a PR4 or higher TO YOUR SITE count - hence only links coming in from quality sites -

    i do NOT know from where they have that information - but think it can be accurate as myself i have a far more than 1500 sites linking to me according to my monthly access_log statistics but only some 300+ are accountable for by google.

    there are sites with PR5 having only a FEW dozen links TO them - but apparently quallaity sites pointing TO them ..

    also i see that the links i have on MY OWN link-page are NOT accounted for OTHER sites i linked there for obvious reasons ( the page is called links.htm and that page is within a folder links as well )

    but the links i place on my actual content- / webmaster- or news-pages are instantly counted toward the PR ranking of the other sites.

    hence linking just for the sake of linking makes NO difference at all - its the quality of sites that link TO YOU that only matters.

    so spoken - a directory such as DMOZ / Yahoo and similar with PR of 8/9 or 10 of course boost very substantially your own PR

    hence submitting your site to OTHER directories - even foreign - WITHIN relevant topics of your site will boost your PR far more than just link-exchange pages back and forth amonth PR 0-3 sites ...

    re DMOZ listing to appear ..
    after submission it may take MANY months ... to appear
    hence nothing to worry about
    just use the waiting time to IMPROVE - add - make nicer ...

    check links, validate HTML code ( w3C ) ...
     
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    DMOZ will never list my site
     
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    Dmoz apparently take upto a year to add sites.

    Imagine how many they get submitted daily.. :)
     
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