Let's see, the SEO guy sells it to those that don't have it and they discount it for those that do have it. I call SCAM! Mostly because anything to do with the ALGOs is 100% private and secret, they can guess, but I don't care who says it, they DON'T and CAN'T know for sure! :/ For me it's a thing that "falls into place".
Interesting, Toolbar PR is 0 because I have never been updated with PR yet however Real Page Rank is 5, hopefully this is what I get the next time PR update is in effect.
Googles76: That PageRank Results Tool you posted a link to is very confusing. I think it should say Real Toolbar PageRank not Real PageRank. Real PR is not on a scale of 1-10 but more like 1 to 50 million. kdobson99: The longest date between toolbar PR updates on record is 106 days. June 22/2004 to Oct 06/2004. The longest date between Google directory PR update is March 16/2004 to Aug 10/2004 of 158 days. You can check the updates of GDPR, TBPR, BL and Algo updates here on my PageRank Update History List. www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/page-rank-update-list.html
A very novice question, what is the difference between Toolbar rank and real Pagerank. What I want to know is, what difference or impact does it make on listing or importance of a site or URL. Two of my domains shows 5 as Real Page Rank, while the toolbar rank is shown as 4
Tool Bar PR is your PR that is seen on the Google Toolbar. The Real Page Rank in this case is an estimation of what your actual PR could be the next update. I think thats how that site works.
According to searchengineengine.com, the PR of all my sites will drop, which can't be true. I think it doesn't make much sense to give toolbar pr and real pr in the query result, it's probably another parameter of the queried page.
There are 3 different Pageranks. There is what is called real or actual Pagerank, toolbar Pagerank and Google Directory Pagerank. Toolbar and Google Directory Pagerank as often refered to as visible Pagerank. Toolbar and Google Directory Pagerank are a 10 unit and 8 unit scale (some hold to a 11 unit and 9 unit counting 0 in the toolbar and cleardot.gif in the GD as a unit) that covers the range of real Pagerank. It is real Pagerank that is voted from one page to another. It is real pagerank that is used in the ranking algo not toolbar PR. To take the term "real Pagerank" and give it a differnet mean (that is what it appeared to me that was done) than what is generally understood will do nothing but confuse the issue further. I hold that real Pagerank updates are still down every 30 days or so and usually at the same time a BL update is done. The last toolbar PR update was on Jan 1st. We have had 2 Google Directory updates since that the last toolbar PR update. The Google Directory 8 unit scale PR (you can see the valuses of the Google Directory PR in the source - cleardot.gif, 5/35, 11/29, 16/24, 22/18, 27/13, 32/18, 38/2 pos.gif/neg.gif ) was updated on Feb 4th and Mar 4th. The sites that are in the Google directory are ranked by the site with the highest real PR first and decending. Both updates saw the order of sites move around. I hold that a real PR update was done before both of these Google Directory PR updates.
The pagerank numbers game is a lot more complicated than that. The invisible weight that determines rankability of a domain and it's pages has something to do with numbers but there are so many more factors playing a role that the emphasis on pagerank can sidetrack and hurt you.
And distilling all the verbiage in BM's post down to something that actually answers the question: 1. So-called "True" PageRank is a value calculated by Google. 2. So-called "Toolbar" PageRank (the value shown in the green bar in Google's browser toolbar) and "Directory" PageRank (the values shown in the green bars next to page listings in the Google directory) are graphical representations of "True" PageRank. 3. How accurate these graphical representations of PageRank are at any given time is not known to anyone except Google. 4. "Real" PageRank is a term invented for the tool in the link in the post above, presumably an attempt to estimate "True" PageRank. Again, the accuracy is not possible to determine.
sitetutor: I would agree that the Pagerank number is much more complicated than the names of each of that the the scales for GDPR and TBPR.
Seeing how visible PR is being discussed I thought this link might be helpful to some. It shows an example of 8 sites from the Google directory each with the different Google directory Pagerank bar. The Google Directory Pagerank (GDPR) bar is differnet than the toolbar Pagerank (TBPR) bar. The GDPR only has 8 units where the TBPR has 10 units. You can't tell what your toolbar PR ranking is from the Pagerank bar in the Google directory but you can get an idea what you toolbar Pagerank is from what position you have in the Google directory conpaired to other sites. In the Google Directory the pages have sites decending by their real PR. www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/google-directory-page-rank-scale.html To those that have an interest this will help clarify how to read the PR bar in the Google Directory (GD) by looking at the source code, show that the GD is a 8 unit bar vs a 10 unit bar on the toolbar.