Google PR : Mystries and Myths

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  1. mad4

    mad4 Peon

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    #21
    Check the age of the site at archive.org. The age of a site is the most important factor in seo.
     
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  2. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #22

    Hi :),
    Actually PR algorithm comes after the SERP. So it is not necessary that you would get a high PR if you are high on SERM becuase if you get top listed and then get lot of hits, this will bring you high PR over time.

    Another thing is, you may get top position for a site on a particular keyphrase where other sites may be low on search for the same keyword but have high PR. Well the other site may be much higher for a more demanding keyword.

    Another matter of confusion is, the compitition. I am afraid compitition is not well defined between us. There are 2 parts of it. One is compitition among all sites for any given keyword which makes little sense. And the other is compitition between keywords for the highest search. The later has the catch to optimization ;)

    Cheers
    MI
     
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  3. Kaudo

    Kaudo Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Forget about that, mymaldives (hmmmm, how I would like to be there right now...),
    my big daddy experience says - Google algo is broken like an old bicycle right now.

    Go on with the work, we all will see in next couple of weeks if they fix it.
     
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  4. primeryder

    primeryder Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Some sites did losr pagerank though. Richdad dot com went to 0 despite having thousands of links to it. Thye must have gone too far.
     
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  5. Kaudo

    Kaudo Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Hi, Mad, I fully respect your opinions but what about this?
     

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  6. Kaudo

    Kaudo Well-Known Member

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    #26
    With seo for firefox extension on, I searched for "fish baskets".
    None of the factors like:pR, site/domain age or Alexa link with high rankig really makes the SE result page clear.
     
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  7. mad4

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    #27
    I search for "fish baskets" and 2 are from 2000, 2 1998, 2 1997, 2 2001 and one 1999.

    This proves to me that old sites rule.
     
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  8. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #28
    Ah this is really surprising.

    I see this site has 97 backlinks with google record and 254,000 pages indexed. huh :eek:

    This shows the site to be high on google record but lol it is PR0

    What was the last PR for this site by the way?

    Well this shows age has nothing to do with PR atleast.

    Checkout http://www.auroinfo.co.in/ this is few months old and was PR4 on last PR update (site was 15 days old ;) ) and now it went down to PR3 LOL.

    Any commnets would be appreciated?
     
    mirainfo, Oct 4, 2006 IP
  9. mymaldives

    mymaldives Well-Known Member

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    #29
    Thumbs up Kaudo :)
     
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  10. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #30
    Yes this is true. But there are some sites which rank higher than others and are new. Basically old maintained sites are higher as comparede to new maintained sites ;)
     
    mirainfo, Oct 5, 2006 IP
  11. dito199

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    #31
    True to that. Seriously everyone should take a step back and try to view PR objectively.

    no1. it does nothing to improve your incoming traffic
    no2. it doesnt mean you rank higher in a search result
    no3. most visitors don't even know PR exist

    Human are suckers for number since the day we were born. What is your math score? What is your school term ranking? What is your GPA? etc.

    PR is a term coined by G who trys to make sense of what they do. It is what differentiate themselves from all othe SE. Otherwise, they are no diff then Yahoo or MSN or any other search engines.

    Quote from http://www.google.com/technology/:
    "Important, high-quality sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Of course, important pages mean nothing to you if they don't match your query. So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query"

    So, instead of trying to improve on PR, one should simply focus to build a quality site for the benefit all surfers alike because quality=PR, and not the other way round.
     
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  12. kirby009

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    #32
    I think most people do know what a pr is . Before i started with website i use to look at the pr as a sign of which site was valuable.;)
     
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  13. vipjun

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    #33
    PR update just updates the pr in goolge toolbar.
     
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  14. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #34


    Bingo... you are new to the comunity and has started giving input for everyone.

    Your description explains the exact thing and the extract shows you are doing your research with SEO ;)
     
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  15. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #35
    Any more insight to the topic? ;)

    Since google dance is on, we all would be interested to have views :D
     
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  16. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #36
    Hey guys do you thing the hosting server has got to do anything with PR?
     
    mirainfo, Oct 6, 2006 IP
  17. dito199

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    #37
    It is always good to have facts supporting your argument :cool:
     
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  18. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #38

    Ha Ha Ha! :D

    Well this is true for human beings. We love to see someone supporting us ;)

    But actually I was glad to see that because I saw his explanation useful and informative

    Well if we all share and even argue then we all share our experience which is helpful to each one of us ;)

    Cheers
    MI
     
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  19. vito

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    #39
    Yes, yes, and yes.

    IMO, Google has done a fantastic job in making everyone PR crazy. Great marketing. We now all want high PR. But what does it mean, really?

    Example - I have a small network of sites that is fairly well ranked in Google. Some time ago, I added a new site to the network. I did not have any content created yet - the site simply had a large JPG so that I could see what my design would look like before I sliced/coded with actual content. Pre-emptively, I added a link to the site to all the footers of my well ranked network sites. Surprise - within 3 weeks, the new site (still only populated by a JPG image), had a PR6. Yes, a PR6. Yet it was a brand new site with no indexable content.

    Yup, PR is all that... ;)

    Vito
     
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  20. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #40


    Ha Ha Ha!

    Honestly I had a similar experience sometime. No doubt PR has nothing to do with real visitors.

    It is only webmasters who are PR crazy and love to pay to get links from a high PR site ;)
     
    mirainfo, Oct 8, 2006 IP