I've seen some talk about Google phasing out the public PR. (was supposed to update at the beggining of this month, didn't) How would the Coop work with out the public PR. Would it get it from the directory. What if you're not in the directory. Use Yahoo somehow?
Who said the public PR was supposed to update? Last I knew google did not publish a date, rather several people were 'predicting' when an update would take place. Simply because it did not happen doesnt' mean that google is getting rid of the system.
Pagerank was introduced by Larry Page, the co founder of Google, and therefore the name Page Rank. I don't think Larry Page is getting out , and therefore phasing our Page Rank
Its been discussed and discussed - I think that it is *concievable* that Google would 'do away' with 'Toolbar PR' or make drastic changes to it. Still, no one knows for sure - either way - so I guess we just wait and occupy ourselves with idle speculation.
I think Google has made it crystal clear that they aren't interested in keeping an up-to-date public PR. And it's very possible that they ARE phasing it out. What if(?), that's all...
The cute little green bar means nothing, and hasn't for some time. It's the internal PR that matters... and it doesn't look like we will ever know what the actual PR of a site is.
No of course not. Nobody knows the internal PR, not even Shawn. Given the length of time since the last PR update and given that everyone agrees that the public PR is almost meanless and useless, I think it is ludicous to be using it as a major factor in Coop weighing. But your question, which everyone seems to be ignoring, was what would Shawn use if there was no public PR. I'd simply change that question to what should he be using now, given the current state of the public PR.
Linkworth has a LinkRank thing going based on number of backlinks (totaled from the major search engines). That also has probelms because some with a ton of PR 0 links and a PR 2 site may not desrve as much weight as a PR 7 site with fewer but better qulaity backlinks.
Well, the problem is, if you have a new site that hasn't recieved any PR and you put it into the Coop Network, you won't recieve any weight. Maybe forever...
iamrussell, that isn't true. One of the sites I manage is currently a PR0, with close to 500 pages indexed (per Google API), which yields a weight of 7200. Every site starts somewhere -- build unique content pages, place 5 ads per page, and the weight will really start to add up. Cygnus
How is that possible? I have a site that's currenly a PR2, has 94 pages indexed by Google, and it's only giving a weight of about 1200. Also with 5 ads per page. I thought the PR played a great role in determining your weight?
94 pages is a lot different than 500 (there are well over 4 thousand pages on this site, but not all of them get indexed as the site is still relatively new). We know that one PR0 page, showing 5 ads, gets 7 weight (from the hundreds of threads of people wondering why they have a 7 weight). Think of the PR as a multipler variable; PR1 at that level might be 14,400, PR2 at 21,600, etc. I don't know the exact scale, but you get the idea. You might have a better PR, but I have more pages. Build out more unique content pages and your weight will keep going up. Cygnus
the weight formula is roughly PR (0 is counted as 1 i believe) times number of pages indexed times number of ads running.
Yeah, the API # is key...so many of the questions in the weight forum come down to someone seeing something along the lines of 50,000 pages on the site: command, but only having 20 via the API.
Good point.. Even though I have 150 pages live (and growing), and the site comand shows 94 pages, the API is only showing 69. Man, if Google updated their PR and BLs more often, I'd be doing great, instead I'm still struggling to get weight (and better Google ranking) for this domain.
That's why I hesitate to add some of my blogs to the coop. If I ahve a PR 5 site with 100 pages indexed, my weight will be pretty low even if each of those 100 indexed pages is PR 4. Clearly quantity is loved more than quality at the moment. So all my message boards are in but not all my blogs...