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Google, Please put a stop to this !

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by mariush, Apr 9, 2006.

  1. #1
    Dear Google Staff,

    I know some of you are reading this forum.

    Please check sites that have adsense on them more often.

    I am really tired of adding in my adsense account tons of sites that give me almost nothing per click and contain only ads.

    For example, "top" sites :

    http ://www.10-top-sites.com/games/

    You can probably replace games with any word you wish, for example :

    http ://www.10-top-sites.com/cars/

    Oh, and how nice of them to think I need information about Asbestos or Mesothelioma if I visit their main page : .http ://www.10-top-sites.com/

    There are already tens, maybe even hundreads of these pages already, when will it stop ?

    Maybe you should take under your wing initiatives like http://www.adsblacklist.com , they're doing the job you should do, not 3rd parties.

    I'll probably get some red rattings because I'm sure some of the DP users do this stuff, among other "clean, good" things but I don't care, I'm really upset about this.

    edited in order to remove direct links, remove space between http and the rest for a valid url. They don't diserve visitors from DP.

    ok, so I got two red ratings, one with the message "wtf are you talking about".

    Well here's what I'm talking about.

    I have loads of Adsense ads on my two sites, that are usually with this message or variations of it:

    "We have found the best x game sites for you" or

    "Here's the best 10 sites about Porshe cars"

    The sites advertised are simply sites that contain hundreads or thousand of pages on which there are just one or two Google Ads container and a few words, to give something to Google to show ads for.

    For example, if you go to http://www.10-top-sites.com/games/ you will see that the site contains just this :

    * 2 Adsense rectangles.
    * Title : Poker
    * Text : Poker between <h1> </h1>
    * Text :

    Browse our directory:
    Backgammon
    Casino
    Poker odds
    Poker calculator
    Internet Poker
    On-line poker
    Poker

    All these words are inserted in the page so that Google will show ads about poker and online gaming.

    The owner of this site places his site on adwords, bids as low as possible.

    Instead of relevant ads on our sites, we get to see his site, we get payed about 2 or 3 cents per click and the user will most likely pay on his ads. He will get about 10 cents for his poker ads and user will feel i have somewhat cheated him.

    I have to manually add these sites to the content filter, so that the ads will remain relevant to the content of my site and so that ads that are more valuable to me will be shown instead of these 1-2 cents/click sites.

    This shouldn't happen if Google would monitor more often the sites where the Adsense code appears. They should put each site where a Publisher ID code appears for the first time in a que and verify each site.

    Anyways, I've already reported this site as a violation because it clearly contradicts the Google Adsense TOS. And I will continue to do so for all the similar sites.
     
    mariush, Apr 9, 2006 IP
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  2. clancey

    clancey Peon

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    I guess your complaint is that Google is accepted AdWords from sites which are nearly non-content sites designed to serve AdSense ads.

    I agree that those sites are frustrating. I do not know if they make much money, other than from people clicking the first available link to escape.

    If your AdSense ads are being filled with such sites I can understand the frustration you feel because the ads do not take people to relevant sites. I am presuming you check this out my manually going to the sites. But, how are you able to determine how much they pay? Or, are you just extrapolating from your outbound clicks and frequent updates to your AdSense data?

    I am not sure what Google could/would do about it all. There are numerous issues here. The most important of which appears to be that you wish advertisiers would have better sites. I cannot see how that could ever be resolved to anyone's satisfaction. Is an ad for a site which sells nothing but tickets good or bad?
     
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    It does not pas the TOS for Adsense for one with the site be created just for Adsense. I would assume that smart pricing would keep them from doing this if the visitors where not converting once they clicked on the ads from there site. I would guess google would get rid of it when it hits there radar.
     
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    #4
    This is a tough one, actually. Consider this:

    1. You create a site about Widgets.
    2. Your site doesn't rank well as a site that would actually sell Widgets for advertisers, so you get SmartPriced.
    3. Your SmartPricing gives you the worst paying ads possible.

    If the real advertisers for Widgets see no value in your site, you'll get these spam advertisements because they pay the best of the worthless advertisers. Instead of you receiving PSAs, you get SOMETHING, which gets Google something, and the advertisers pay something. I guess be happy you're getting ads.

    In the long run, you need to create a quality, unique website that drives business to the advertisers -- they're paying for your clicks. If your clicks are worthless to advertisers, why should you pay?

    One of my sites was like this until I reworked how I presented the product I was talking about. Almost overnight my ads changed (a testiment to SmartPricing). I have 2 other sites that I don't really care if they make money or not, and the ads are awful. Recent changes there seem to have made a bit of a difference.
     
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    Friend Peon

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    #5
    One month before, i start a thread regarding this....
    and was attacked by red reps...

    yes.... may be..
     
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  6. j3r0m3

    j3r0m3 Peon

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    erm dadasays,
    care to divulge a little on what are the changes you did to get better ads?

    i do not quite understand the rework part.
     
    j3r0m3, Apr 9, 2006 IP
  7. devin

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    #7
    why don't you just block those ads?
     
    devin, Apr 10, 2006 IP
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    j3r0m3 Peon

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    i think his problem is too many urls to block.

    plus the inevitable process repeating itself with new clones and new urls.
    its like swotting flies, they just come back
     
    j3r0m3, Apr 10, 2006 IP
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    devin Guest

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    #9
    like the 10 top sites thing, OP can just block all from 10-top-sites.com. that'll get rid of all the disguising clones.
     
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    #10
    I do lots of blocking - the only problem is new ones pop up almost every other day.
     
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    I understand that these sites are shitty... but did you mail the google team directly ? Why do you write that you 'know that they are reading this' ... did you mail them with no reply back ?? I've mailed the adsense team on numerous occasions and gotten a very quick reply.

    Gdev
     
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  12. danimal

    danimal Active Member

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    #12
    adsense support can't control what sites show up on your pages, because it's the adwords sales crew that allows mfa's into the advertising program... so forget about complaining to adsense support, it's a waste of time.

    if you are seeing mfa's, it could be because your epc and ctr aren't very good... mfa's don't want to pay very much for their ads.
     
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    I now what you mean. I have seen sites that are just full of ads and have not a little bit of other content.

    This is how they do it.

    They have a keyword. They then put 3 adsense ad blocks on it and they then also add a large amount of searchfeed ads on the page just to make it look as if they have a page of content. They also then make it look as if it is a directory when it is just a page or site full of ads and nothing else.
     
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    mariush Peon

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    I don't like to bring old posts back but I wanted to clear something out with the users on the forum.

    Some people have written here or in red reps that I should stop wining and do something about it, or I should report the site to Google.

    Well, I did, on the very same day I've started the thread, and I wanted to refrain myself from posting until I got a reply from Adsense team.

    Today, I have finally received one:

    So, just another automated reply at the moment, but at least everything's moving forward.

    I was just checking a site on sale here on the forum, so you can see.. not only my sites are affected by this :
     

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    top ten sites and similar sites is something that I don't visit. If I click on them by mistake then I click straight of them. How I see them is a waste of internet space and they are not useful at all.
     
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    waste of space but probably the owners leave it there together with the multiple pages they have and wait for unsuspecting viewers to click their ads and allow them to hit paydirt.
     
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    yeah there is quite a few of them out there...

    I found the adsense ad preview tool (from the adsense help pages) helpful in finding out who these sites were and blocking them. I found it interesting that if you point the adsense tool to some obscure country with not much ads to show - these types of websites seem to pop up.

    I want my users to have a good internet experience... not these dodgy sites that dont have any useful or informative content.
     
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    Wow, look at the freakin' title of the home page! Asbestos, Mesothelioma! Wow.:eek: :eek: :eek:
    Unfortunately, it's not obvious to the normal internet surfer what he/she is blatantly doing. I wonder if it works...
     
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    The other problem with these sites is that they make some quality advertisers less likely to do content advertising. For example, I do only SERPs now with my Adwords account. I kept seeing my ads on atrociously bad websites and just didn't want my brand to be associated with them at all.
     
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    I agree, they are just ruining it for the people that do actually care about the performace of Adsense and Adwords for both the Publishers and Advertisers.

     
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