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Google pagerank is Updating

Discussion in 'Google' started by checkrankings, Jun 29, 2006.

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  1. CrankyDave

    CrankyDave Peon

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    #741
    This has the look and smell of a glitch.

    *Usually* a BL update precedes a PR update. Although there's been some reports of BL fluxuations, I've seen nothing that would indicate an "update" when it come to backlinks.

    It is possible that they are not able to push a PR update with "Big Dud"... yet. Suppose "Big Dud" is not able to properly utilize previously stored data and is unable to properly utilize the data base storing toolbar PR? They are currently having problems delivering proper text for clickable links in the SERP's. Another set of data stored separately.

    Dave
     
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  2. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #742
    Wahey, it's back tot the good old days of supplemental hell ;) A few people have reported PR updates, but all their pages going to Supp index. None of my clients thankfully. :)
     
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    maldives Prominent Member

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    #743
    No changes here as usual ;)
     
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  4. CrankyDave

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    #744
    Exactly. All someone would need to do, is check the SERP's on the DC's showing vastly different toolbar PR. I think a PR7 and a PR0 would qualify as vastly different. ;)

    Dave
     
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    #745
    If Google keep on they will have nothing left to break :)
     
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  6. CrankyDave

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    #746
    The SI is still not working properly. For quite some time it's been unsearchable. It was getting better but I haven't checked recently. Additionally, results in the SI are not only having title text combined with on page text for the clickable link, the description text is combining meta text with on page text.

    Now, Matt had comented that "BD" and the SI worked independent to each other. I wonder if this is an effort to get them to "play together" that's not working? Again, another data base separate from BD and the regular index.

    Dave
     
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  7. LaCabra

    LaCabra Goats R Us

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    #747
    I have checked several of the new sites that some of you have commented about using the tools in this thread and they are all showing PR0. I've also checked some of the older sites with the same tools and seeing absolutely no change.

    MG your findforum.com site is showing PR0 across the board. This may be a false alarm.
     
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  8. AtanasYanev

    AtanasYanev Active Member

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    #748
    I did this, but with PR3 and PR0 - no changes in the spert, #4 for both of the DCs I've checked... Don't have a pr7 website ;)
     
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    #749
    I hope you guys know that talking about how PR doesn't affect your serps makes newbies think they are unrelated. I mean, you do understand the relationship, right?

    So you know, yes, a backlink update is going on with this PR update... it always works like that. However, UNLIKE how it always used to work, it appears that not all sites are getting updated at the same time. It's very selective, almost like dipping your toe into the pool before jumping in.

    FOR THOSE OF YOU POSTING THAT THE TOOLBAR HASN'T CHANGED FOR YOU... you need to check using a tool that check various datacenters at once. The toolbar only represents ONE datacenter, during an update, you will see different PR and backlinks at different datacenters. Webby has one such tool, another of McDar.net, and another is http://livepr.raketforskning.com/

    Webby - the name of the tool has to do with it's origins, ignore that part. What you need to do is steam whatever DC's that site has that yours is missing and you'll be fine. :)

    -Michael
     
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  10. CrankyDave

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    #750
    Perhaps, since you asked the question, you'd like to enlighten the class on the precise relationship between PR and the SERP's. That's the relationship that newbies get confused.

    Again, you see a backlink update, I see minor flucuations in some backlinks, not uncommon, some which return to whence the came. You're pulling the trigger a bit quick on definitively calling it an "update" in my opinion. Could just as easily be a glitch.

    Dave
     
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  11. minstrel

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    #751
    That's how I see it too, Cranky Dave. It's basically a lot of patching and tweaking and testing and rollbacks that has been a continuous process since Big Daddy. And since it obviously isn't fixed yet, I expect it will continue for a while longer.
     
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  12. Old Welsh Guy

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    #752

    Hi Michael, before I go off ona rant, would you mind getting off that horse (carefully as it is rather high), and point out who has been saying that PR is unrelated to serp's? I know I have said repeatedly that TOOLBAR PR is unrelated to the SERP's, But I have only said that because it IS THE TRUTH ;)

    Toolbar PR plays ABSOLUTELY no part in the ranking algo.
     
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    #753
    I think I'd like to hear that too :)

    100% agree, I said list week there wasn't any point trying to draw any conclusions until things had settled.
     
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  14. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #754
    I dont think that site has more datacenters than mine, rankalert queries 72 datacenters, including toolbarqueries.google.com (the one that shows toolbar PR..)
     
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  15. LaCabra

    LaCabra Goats R Us

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    #755
    Yes Michael, I'm a newbie please enlighten me!
    :confused:
     
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  16. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #756
    Okay Newbie, Repeat after me.

    "Google is broken, they love spam.."
    "Googleplex is in total mess"

    Repeat this 100 times. :D
     
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  17. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #757
    I think I read someplace that there is some sort of algy riddem and some sort of rear massage, I think it might also be something to do with golf courses by the sea run by a guy called relly vance WHO is unable to have sex because of a dysfunction, but cuts the mmiddles out of apples. At least that is what I think they said when I heard them say

    There is relly Vance and Impotence, these combine via an algy riddem that is has at its core backrubs and relies on linx.

    Something like that anyhow. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. LaCabra

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    #758
    Webby ... if I screw up before I get to the end do I have to start over again? Also I read somewhere that it may have to do with a "bad data push"
     
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    #759
    Grrr.

    Here, read this, Post #5.

    -Michael
     
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  20. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #760
    Yeah, Matt told us, all the problems are due to corrupt data indexing, and bad data push, thats how a "Particular, Fountain of Information"(Read 100% pure Spam) site got bilions of pages indexed, and for our low life sites, Deidexing is a very next thing, site: operator is not working. Why because we dont spam google.

    and he thinks we are gonna buy it.
     
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