No, compost is referring to my comment that I won't buy from a PR0 site. For dramatic purposes, he ommits that part, making it sound more a broad based judgement. Simply put, I'm careful about where I give my credit card info out to, and he isn't.
You simply have no validity or evidence for that statement. You don't know what my criteria are for giving my credit card information out on the web. All you know is that PR is not one of them, because PR has absolutely nothing to do with the trustworthyness of a site. In fact before I'd give my credit card information out I would want to know I was on a secure page (https://) and secure pages don't have PR values. So you really don't know what you are talking about.
And I don't care what your criteria is. We all have our own criteria and a number of others indicated a PR0 was a red marker for them as well. All I know is that you say PR is not one of them. But I don't know that for sure, and I don't really care. I'm just humored you chose that to make a big hissy fit about
Well you certainly seem to going around telling everyone that I'm not careful about giving out my information. By saying that you are implying that the only way to be careful is by using PR as at least one of your criteria. And the fact that others have supported your position only proves that you are not alone in your ignorance or prejudice about PR. If you remember the discussion in the original thread there were also a number of people who agreed with my point of view and were either amazed or amused that anyone could be gullible enough to think PR was a endorsement of the commercial trustworthyness of a web site.
I'll bet Shawn is breathing easy now.. not having to find a way to rework the coop. I'm off to revalidate ! JL
Not any more than it implies you are saying it's not an indicator to be concerned with. I can live with the fact it doesn't matter to you, but apparently you can live with the fact I'm a bit more cautious than you are. And the fact that others supported my position indicates that you are not alone in your own ignorance about PR. It's a two way street compost. I remember it quite well. I was tempted to offer you some tissue
I'm sure he is glad that his belief that this was only a temporary suspension was correct. And I don't want to appear smug and say I told you so, but there is no way in the world that if Google was actually to stop using or publishing PR that they would go about it this way. I've been reminded all weekend of the childrens story about Chicken Little who ran around crying "The sky is falling", "The sky is falling". The panic and hysteria this weekend was just as pronounced and just as ill founded.
I agree. PR isnt given out based on whether a person/company is a honest or dishonest person. Everytime you give out your credit card information you're taking a risk. The PR of the site wouldn't even dawn on me when deciding whether or not I am going to make a purchase from said site. A high PR could happen to belong to a very bad dude with very bad intentions to say the least.
Yep, very chicken little on all the forums. Too many people going off half-cocked on assumptions, rather than waiting a few days and seeing what happens. the amount of panicked emails from link brokers was pretty funny too. I think far too many webmasters are using a bad model for getting traffic and getting links; and this little glitch exposed it.
I'm sure you mean "but apparently you cannot live with ...". But there you go again claiming that you are more careful than I am because you use PR as a valuation tool. You have no idea how careful I am. I might be 10 times more careful than you. In fact I'm careful and knowledgeable enough to know that PR is no assurance of web site trustworthyness and as such am not foolish enough to use it as a criteria for handing out credit card information. You are putting your trust in a measurement that has nothing to do with trust. That is rather sloppy and careless if you ask me. You should always attempt to understand the data before you decide which decisions it is useful for making.
Not to change the subject, but back to the point of this thread. Google is back up. Did anyone notice any changes in PR?
I understand very well. As careless with your posts as you are, I'm quite convinced you are equally, if not more, careless with your credit card information. That was your first step in being wrong. You thought I asked. While reading your posts, I can gather you feel you are a self-professed PR God with everlasting wisdom to bestow upon others, I simply find your efforts to berate others humorous. I hope I have that much kick when I'm your age
I have not noticed any. I've been going through a list of sites I have or manage and do not note any changes in PR. Established sites are where they left off and new sites that have no PR have not gained any. Has there been any official (or unofficial) word from Google on what happened? I was also wondering if anyone who has been affected by page hijacking has noticed any PR changes.
I haven't seen any PR changes and several other in this thread and others have also reported no change. It looks like Google just took the service down for whatever reason and then put it right back up. Of course it is now safe once again to give out your credit card information on the web. Millions of dollars were lost in commercial transactions over the weekend because nobody could tell which sites were trustworthy.
Bob, I agree with you that concern wasn't really necessary, but to be totally honest, G doesn't announce it's intentions to change things, in fact, I recall a scenario a few years back where G changed the way it ranked sites, and ppl started losing overnite. Their spokesperson resonded to media enquiries with.. "we make no promises". Admittedly, now that they have shareholders to answer to, they're not going to do anything that won't blow over, but at the end of the day, it comes down to what their spin doctors can get away with. I figure, in the name of improving results, they could do almost anything they care to. It's interesting when you take stock, to see just what dependancies you have, both direct and indirect. I for example use a variety of tools (both desktop and online) that include PR when factoring things. If anything, I'll be revisiting those dependancies shortly, and assessing whether I want to be anywhere near PR based tools. Cheers, JL