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Google PageRank and Ranking Penalties Being Dished Out Like Crazy

Discussion in 'Google' started by Dave E, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. oziii

    oziii Peon

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    #41
    thing is - most of the blogs listed in this thread are legit sites. I can only speak for mine (problogger) but I don't buy or sell links and try to play by the rules. I've been pumping out helpful content for years now. Ultimately I don't really care what my Page Rank is because I don't sell links or write review posts (both of which pay more with a higher page rank) but I do find it odd that Google have done this.
    SEMrush
    Other blogs impacted include mega blog Engadget. It's an odd update.
     
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    InnovationZen Well-Known Member

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    saku24 Well-Known Member

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    #43
    Maybe the stupidest action of google yet. If they keep trying to get monopoly for online advertising it could backfire at them. It would be enough if all webmasters disclose this one in their robots.txt

    User-agent: Googlebot

    Disallow: /

    ...and gone is google, nothing to index :p I might be daydreamer but i think something should be done to stop this googlemadness :)
     
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    Lemurc Peon

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    #44
    What are you talking about iatbm?

    Where did you find PR3 if a never told you the blogs I was talking about. :eek:

    * Engadget (from 7 to 5)
    * AutoBlog (from 6 to 4)
    * Problogger (from 6 to 4)
    * Copyblogger (from 6 to 4)
    * Search Engine Journal (from 7 to 4)
    * Quick Online Tips (from 6 to 3)
    * Search Engine Roundtable (from 7 to 4)
    * Blog Herald (from 6 to 4)
    * Weblog Tools Collection (from 6 to 4)
    * JohnTP (from 6 to 4)
    *Seopedia.org (from 6 to 4, even if I see PR 3)

    This sites have good content and some of then not selling links.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #45
    I was not talking about selling links.

    If PR dropped that is because when google counted all backlinks pointing to specific sites then google by PR formula assigned new PR to those sites. ( if it is not broken like adsense last two days :D )
    Check google patents for further info ....
     
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    #46
    We saw a drop in PageRank yesterday, still have over 300K links pointing to the site, and have more referrals from Google Search per day than ever before.

    I had a small section of the site, labeled Supporters, with 3 links. All other advertising is now image based.

    We publish high quality articles on a daily basis and have over 15,000 RSS subscribers. Sure, we link out to directories, but that is because they are resources, like search engines. Yahoo was a directory before an engine, and yes, search marketing is partly directory based (hence SuperPages.com being so popular).

    There are probably more blogs and sites with high PR losing some of their Rank, but PageRank does not define site value or rankings in Google.
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #47
    Please say that again for emphasis.
     
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    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #48
    So you're saying, the PR3 with less then 100 links I had, turned into a PR2 with over 5,000 links (still the original 100 also), simply because all the links got devalued?

    EDIT: Google also says they're constantly updating, don't you think they could be factoring link sales into one of those updates?
     
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    #49
    Content is King, but Copyblogger weighing in at only PR4 is terrible. Looks like Google is one step closer to a general PR export to the toolbar.
     
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    #50
    But why Google do that? Can somebody explain me?
     
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    #51
    This is plain ridiculous. It is apparent that Google is decreasing the PR all over the Internet, regardless if website is selling links or not. So what is the point of page rank if it is not relevant any more? It is random all across the web.
    So why not get rid of it? No, Google will keep it because it gives them so much free advertising. Even in this, useless state.
     
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    #52
    With this move, Google has further devalued the importance of PageRank. I'm not sure anyone will measure ProBlogger, Search Engine Journal, EnGadget, or the other sites based upon Google's rank. How can we? Instead, other factors will play in.

    I wouldn't be surprised if a competitor developed a ranking tool that would compete against PageRank too.
     
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    jg123 Notable Member

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    #53
    If all page ranks drop then everything pretty much stays the same with just different numbers. Google was probably just feeling that PR was being cheapened with so many sites ranking high.
     
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    #54
    Might be but as far as DP is concerned I saw a grey bar changing to white, which means at least "up" :confused:
     
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    #55
    it doesnt really matter what they do. their index is polluted and they are distracted by link selling.

    for popular searches better results can be found at mahalo.com and del.icio.us
     
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    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #56
    They can do whatever they want; they're Google.
     
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    #57
    "but PageRank does not define site value or rankings in Google." (anymore?)
    or was it always a big fake? I've got that impression after years of on-page optimization noticing always a "strange" behavior/relation between optimization, PR and SERP results.

    My two cents observing the "general" decrease in PR and the discussion about it; one of my "small" customer's sites (just 40+ pages) with PR 4 and 800+ links (by Google webmaster tools) stays untouched in PR but rankings are rising since months slow but constant without doing anything on that site.
     
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    #58
    Didnt apple.com used to be a PR 10 ??
    Its showing up for me now as a PR9.

    Some of the other PR10s are the same such as Adobe and Macromedia.
     
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    #59
    Is it something to do with nofollow? I have one personal blog with only adsense on it, and nofollow on it, and it has remained a 5. My other blog, which has other advertising has dropped from a 4 to a 3 this mornuing. I removed the nofollow on the second blog, because advertisers hate it.
     
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    #60
    ... or lots of their links are on penalized sites that lost PR!
     
    monfis, Oct 24, 2007 IP