What do you mean? Don't they have to update all datacenters equally, why would some have old results?
Because they are propagating the updates across their datacenters one by one -- it wouldn't be good practice to have them all updating (and hence briefly offline) at the same time.
This must be the fastest moving thread ever! Grows by 50 odd posts each time I open it. Anyway, I still haven't noticed any change in SERPs due to this update, although it is good to have a decent PR showing on the toolbar. They seem to be updating the wrong way around this time. Usually, internal PR updates first and then toolbar is updated after a month or two. Hopefully, they will update internal PR once the toolbar update is over, so we can see some action in the rankings. Maybe they have done it this way because of our whinging about the toolbar not being up to date!
That's because rankings are changing continuously whereas the public PR is only updated at intervals -- you aren't likely to see any dramatic changes just because they public PR has finally changed: it's reflecting changes that have been in place and evolving all along.
I would have agreed with you completely a few days ago. But, that's exactly what I am trying to say in my post above. The've changed the system. Earlier, internal PR would be updated first and then the toolbar was updated. So, if you had a new website you would see a jump in rankings when internal PR was updated. The traffic from Google would go up but you would still be a PR0 according to the toolbar. Then after a month or two, the toolbar would update showing a PR (PR3 say). BUT, this time there would be no changes to the rankings. Now, I introduced a new directory 5 weeks ago (As you know, minstrel). This is now showing a PR3 on the toolbar, but the traffic has been constant since the day I set-up the site (hasn't varied much at all). Now, it's hard (in fact, impossible) to arrive at a figure and say that a PR3 site should get x number of visitors everyday. But, my site has been getting the same number of visitors each day since it is was established. If internal PR had been updated, traffic would have gone up. So, IMO the new PR has been calculated as my site deserves to be a high PR3 or a low PR4 according to the BLs it has got. BUT, the new PR has only been applied to the toolbar and not to the internal database. Not as yet, at least. And I believe that once the new PR is applied to the internal database, sites will start noticing changes in rankings. This should be fairly soon, I think. A matter of days now!
It will be nice when I notice a change in rankings for my sites. I have waited so long. An increase in PR is a boost in moral for me, but the important part of the matter is having the ranking and traffic to go with it.
Hi Folks, as of the time of this post I have seen PR and BL updates for my sites. Anyone else seeing this? cheers Frank
If you check some of the other threads here, you'll know that many people have reported seeing updates. I can vouch for a PR update.
But Google hasn't operated that way for more than a year. That was the old Google... bu that was a very long time ago now by internet standards. Why? PR is only one of many (more than 100) factors determining Google ranking: Even if internal PR is not updated on a continuous basis, which I would debate, do you really think that Google waits 4 months or more without updating the SERPs? Well, I'm sure that's an encouraging thought for you, dfsweb, but you're dreaming. That isn't the world of Google -- that is some sort of fantasy Google world. It just doesn't work that way. And it doesn't even make any sense that it would work that way.
hey, my toolbar also updated now, and it looks like all my internal pages are also PR2. well, other then the ones that are brand new, they're not indexed yet. nifty
PR has been update but there is is massive change in the ranking pattern .May be in due coarse of time that will also be visible . SEO is a patience game !
Yeah I think they've rescaled PR. Before it was way easy to get like a 3 or 4 - just a few so-so links. Now a 5 seems to be saying something and a six is very good. Seems like you've really got to earn those first 4 points or so now along with the rest, whereas before you were almost given a 3 or 4 with very few links...
My website just went down from a PR2 to a PR1. I had started working on SEO just recently and I'm disappointed by this. However, I also jumped up to #7 on MSN (up from around #100 or so).
Hey tops! I predicted 1st week of May for internal PR. Still a few days to go for that. Although, I must say that they jumped the gun by updating the toolbar first. We'll find out soon enough, eh? Minstrel: That 100 factors making up SERPs is correct, agreed! There are lots of other factors with title tags, content, anchor text etc. being the more important ones. But, I still feel that PR is a key factor in determining rankings. Would you really expect Google to say something like "There are 100 factors in total, 95 cause negligible effect on rankings, 4 factors cause noticeable changes but PR is pretty much the main one that causes mayhem!" And, I don't really blame Google for depending so much on PR. I think it's an innovative little idea. I mean PR is pretty much the reason why Google is where it is now. And, PR is pretty much what separates Google from the rest of the search engines. As, I am sure that all the other SEs look at all of most of the other "99 factors"!
It's only actually the consequence this has on the co-op weight which is my anxiety. My main domain is looking stable... Was expecting the index page to hit a PR7... with more yahoo back links