Google Knol

Discussion in 'Google' started by joebloggs, Jul 30, 2008.

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    http://www.seobook.com/google-knol

    Very interesting disussion. Last night I was thinking about Google's potentially conflicting missions to improve search results and make money.

    As an SEO I see myself as grey hat. That is, most of the time I want to be white hat and work with Google, but, because of they way that they work, sometimes I'll use naughty tactics to further my ends.

    Theiving copywrited material and manipulating the search results seems pretty 'grey hat' to me.
     
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  2. Freewebspace

    Freewebspace Notable Member

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    I also started posting on knol... the good thing is we can post anything except porn ,adult..etc.,

    Also we can link Adsense account with Google knol....

    So Google will display our Adsense ads when a knol is viewed
     
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  3. JeremiaSK8

    JeremiaSK8 Active Member

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    Thanks for the link joebloggs, it was a really interesting read. Aaron is totally right, Google's business practice is not ok, it's not ok to filter out old authority sites, and to show new copied content on Knol...
     
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  4. joebloggs

    joebloggs Peon

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    And as well as manipulating the algo to their own ends, they're also keeping all the PageRank under lock and key with nofollow.
     
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    Interesting article, same i was saying how long Google will be fair with Wikipedia, in my post.
     
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  6. Webdrops

    Webdrops Peon

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    ok Google Knol... is something unique in itself... i mean its a combination of wikipedia, blogs,mahalo and other similar social networks... its good that google came up with something same as squidoo... but as I was doing a little bit of research to know what people are doing on it... ppl have already started spamming it and have started treating it as a article submission site.... whereas it is basically designed for authoritative articles... and yes... it is actually disgusting to read that Google is giving more value or adding artificial juice to these knols and this is affecting the search results directly
     
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    :confused:Errm... isn't that why we're all here? I mean, if I was a brain surgeon and wanted to read an authoritative article about brain surgery, I wouldn't look on Ezinearticles, or Squidoo, or anywhere like that.

    If it's not moderated, it will get full of spam, sure. So make hay while the sun shines, that's what I say. Get your spam in first!

    Cheers,
    Zander
     
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  8. Webdrops

    Webdrops Peon

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    Hey This is absolutely wrong... SEO's is NOT at all about spamming... I guess you are mistaken...or taking SEO lightly... SEO is about getting good search rankings and in a truly promotional way... not by spamming others mail box, comment section or websites... aaahhh!! now i get it y SEO is going down the drains and y ppl think that seo is about spamming... this thing makes me sad... for submitting articles there are 1000's of article submission sites so go ahead and promote your site using ezines... but knol is not meant for that... its meant to be as unique as wikipedia... and we as SEO's can promote are site by writing authoritative articles... not by simply copy pasting articles which have been posted on 1000's of other sites... i guess we still need to understand the worth of knol... its a google product and believe me spamming wont work... my friend :)
     
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  9. Zander Boon

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    Hi,

    I don't think I ever said it was...

    Yes, of course. But most of them are useless, with a few exceptions we all know about. But even EzineArticles has human reviewers who filter out some of the crap.

    But how will it be as unique as Wikipedia if anyone can sign in and submit unmoderated articles? Remember how Facebook got big by initially being exclusive? knol seems to be anything but exlusive.

    Also, who will deem an article to be "authoritative"? You? Me? Google? The readership?

    Lastly, I've submitted two articles, both original content, but they do link to my product review page. I've since seen a post where someone says you can't link back to your site, but they have a "LINK" button in the knol editor, which is nice and easy to use, so people are going to use it. There's no warning of any kind here. You yourself also say "we as SEO's can promote are (sic) site by writing authoritative articles..." - that's exactly what I'm suggesting people do - maybe the early bird will catch the worm - maybe not.

    Take care,
    Zander.
     
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    nice to read that Aaron Wall copy pasted his own article for Knol then Google picked up the duplicate content in Knol as the original one for its SERPs. It's clear that Google favors its own content. When you copy pasted an article from site B (that has already indexed) to site A, usually the article in site A will be flagged as dupe. But when you pasted the article to Google Knol, it'll be showed as the original one. This is crazy. Probably I would try to steal someone else's content then post it to Knol...lol. I think Knol can be easily abused...
     
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    After clicking your top link, I might have to jump off the fence and actually start using the Google knol site, it seems that it is actually catching on with article writers and internet marketers alike.:cool:
     
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    I thought this was something spelled as SPAM :D oH!! or you meant soemthing else ;):D
     
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    Google will eventually manipulate things so that people will visit Knol instead of Wiki.

    Knol will be Google's pot of gold.
     
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