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Google is not playing by their own rules - check this out!

Discussion in 'Google' started by Badlands07, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. #1
    If you want to see something interesting - check this out:

    Go to Google and type in 'saas' in the search box and then hit enter.

    The first ad on the top right will be a Google ad. Then hit the 'Search' button again at the top of the page (still with the same keyword in it) and you will notice that the other paid ads will move about, but the Google ad never moves - no matter how many times you hit refresh or click on any of the ads.

    I tried this on 'saas', 'cloud computing' and lots of other app keywords which all show ads for this link - www.Google.com/Apps/Business and never move from the top position on the right no matter what you do.

    Seems a bit sneaky on Google's part as we put the public trust in their search monopoly.

    Remember, they are Google and they 'Do No Evil'....:)
     
    Badlands07, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  2. an0n

    an0n Prominent Member

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    I'll agree with you on this.

    Isn't it just awesome when it's your ball, and you want to take it home, and nobody can do anything about it.
    It'll be a great day when i see gaygle get slammed.
     
    an0n, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  3. Badlands07

    Badlands07 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you and think they should be embarassed. This is a blantant violation of what they claim to stand for (at least for everyone else).
     
    Badlands07, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  4. drhowarddrfine

    drhowarddrfine Peon

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    You don't seem to know the difference between search results and paid advertising. The ad you point to is paid for though by Google to be where it is.
     
    drhowarddrfine, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  5. Badlands07

    Badlands07 Well-Known Member

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    And you do not seem to understand how the auction model works for those paid ads. It is IMPOSSIBLE to stay in one position and NEVER move. What Google is doing is bypassing the auction model and locking themselves into a certain position no matter what is happening around it.
     
    Badlands07, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  6. LakeCountry

    LakeCountry Active Member

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    Although it's a paid add, don't Adwords users pay or perhaps a better word is bid a certain amount in hopes of getting top positions? This seems worse than doing it in the organic search results.

    I'm sure Google isn't paying themselves for that top "add" spot and no matter how much one pays for that keyword, the will never get the top slot....not when your "bidding" against the very ones that control it all.
     
    LakeCountry, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  7. Badlands07

    Badlands07 Well-Known Member

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    Basically there are many variables put into play on how you can rank within the paid ads. There are so many that it is IMPOSSIBLE to position yourself as exactly (for every search) as Google as done for themselves. For instance, you can want and try to bid for top position, but if your CTR is not high enough you may not even appear at all. If your quality score is too low or relevancy is not exact you can bid what you want and never be guaranteed anything. So, for Google to ALWAYS have an ad appear in the exact same position is impossible by the system they set-up.
     
    Badlands07, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    simstar Peon

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    I see it differently when searching (may be due to .co.uk) Google is 3rd, then 4th moving about frequently. Are you searching from the US?
     
    simstar, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  9. alphaneterik

    alphaneterik Banned

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    thats messed up.. usually they just make google links @ the top of regular search..
     
    alphaneterik, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  10. Badlands07

    Badlands07 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I am looking from the US, but it is good to know that it is limited to this region. Thanks for the heads-up.
     
    Badlands07, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    Does the Google site appear at the top of the organic results too? If not I wonder why? Do Google think paid ads get more hits than organic results?
     
    brian65, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  12. Badlands07

    Badlands07 Well-Known Member

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    On my searches they are not appearing at the top of the organic results, but I think it would be harder for them manipulate that then for them to act like they were buying ads from themselves and were just part of the set of people buying a certain term (maybe they thought they would just blend in and no one would notice that there ad never moves)....:)
     
    Badlands07, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  13. DoDo Me

    DoDo Me Peon

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    maybe in google' eye, they are just public ads. For themselves, and they do not even pay for it
     
    DoDo Me, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    ChrisBa Active Member

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    haha.. google trying to increase the user experience of coarse! lol
     
    ChrisBa, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    farangkwaiyai Guest

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    I searched "saas" in google.com and the advert was 3rd down. (I am in the Uk this minute)
     
    farangkwaiyai, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    newlogo Banned

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    #16
    ys sometimes its not understandable how google behave in giving search result
     
    newlogo, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  17. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    #17
    What the heck?? I can't see any Paid Listing in "saas" or "Cloud Computing". Except for those in right sidebar.
    And, no Google Apps ads there.
     
    Abhik, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    #18
    wonderful information to know about.
     
    roshandark, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    hankhaijin Peon

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    that is no surprising, every company will think its own behalf the first, I think.
     
    hankhaijin, Jul 29, 2009 IP
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    qazu Well-Known Member

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    #20
    What makes you think Google bids for adwords? They own adwords, they'll just go in and make theirs the highest.
     
    qazu, Jul 29, 2009 IP