Google is dropping all Keywords to those sites that have sold text links on them

Discussion in 'Google' started by stratz, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. sourcer

    sourcer Well-Known Member

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    #41
    I have sold some links on different web sites / blogs but I don't see any difference.
     
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  2. Mencucci

    Mencucci Peon

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    #42
    Google is definitely after the paid links. First it was the big directories, then some bigger names (John Chow, Andy Beard, ...) and now it looks like they are after the smaller fish.
     
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  3. linkmanager

    linkmanager Well-Known Member

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    #43
    I have a question to author of this thread:

    "Could you send me via PM sites wich were penalized by Google???" It could help check how Google think ;) how google checking it :)

    Thx a lot in advance for sharing urls:)

    Best Regards
     
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  4. DemDem

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    #44
    If you have at your site subpage with selling links offer than google will punish you. I think words "advertise here", "your link here" also are dangerous
     
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  5. linkmanager

    linkmanager Well-Known Member

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    #45
    I could agree with DemDem and add some phrases:

    "Buy link here"
    "Advertise on this site"
    "Sponsored links"
    "Bid link here"
    "Place Your Link Here!"

    If someone have more proposition lets write it here :) Lets do quality list of dangerous phrases on site what Google can easy catch
     
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  6. DemDem

    DemDem Peon

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    #46
    Also sponsored themes for wordpress aren't good idea (it was in one of MC's video)
     
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  7. jg123

    jg123 Notable Member

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    #47
    So why has maxlink.org been on the front page of 'web directory' search results for so long, look at their right column.
     
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  8. touches93

    touches93 Well-Known Member

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    #48
    Google wants to rule and they want it all.
     
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  9. stratz

    stratz Peon

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    #49
    Ours is called super sites.. But we have an advertising page and people do contact us though there.
     
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  10. stratz

    stratz Peon

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    #50
    UPDATE:

    I was advised about one of the sites from someone in this thread. I thank you for that. And just over 1 day after the changes all the keywords came back online and to where they were. Interesting because the (add link) I had on the site was for affiliates who link to that site to put there link in there. Nothing to do with buying or selling links. SO lesson for everyone be careful of the words you have on your site. It may not have to do with selling link but it may lead google to think you are you better get rid of it.
     
    stratz, Oct 14, 2007 IP
  11. jg123

    jg123 Notable Member

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    #51
    I wonder if it is a conoincidence or it really had something to do with it, I will have to keep an eye on this one.
     
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  12. Chios

    Chios Well-Known Member

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    #52
    I don't understand stratz

    let me summarize and correct me if I am wrong ...

    Your serps positions were dropping because you suspected that google found out that you were selling links ... that was 4 days ago OCT 10th

    Today you realized that with the advise of someone from here you erased/got rid of the words that were making google assume that you are selling links and all of a sudden all your keyword positions returned back to normal ??!!

    How many keywords are we talking about ? couldn't it have been just a coincidence (if it was one or two keywords, it could be just a google dancing with your domains it happens all the time to mine, even for lots of the keywords) ...

    If there was no correspondence between you and google that means that they are actually monitoring all your sites closely and realized you have changed the wording. I take it that a person is looking into such issues (could it be automated ?!!) ... but a person just seeing a few word changes can't really believe that you are actually legit (I mean in google's terms/not selling links) I mean without you dropping some of the outbound links that supposedly you sold and for which I assume you were penalized for ...

    see all this does not make sense to me ... too short of a period to revert their penalty ... sometimes I sent adsense support a question and they take a week ...

    please explain if you want
     
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  13. jg123

    jg123 Notable Member

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    #53
    I agree, it is doubtfull that google even has anything near the capability (or desire) to monitor sites so closely. Probably just another hic-up that worked itself out.
     
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    #54
    "Google works in mysterious ways"
    Even if your link site gets penalized by Google, you can still sell links because there are other search engines besides Google. Start optimizing for Yahoo and play down the role of Google, and promote whatever search engine likes you. Talk about 'niche' traffic from these smaller search engines lol ..at least that's what I do..

    And although I don't run a link site, I'm pretty sure that this is accurate - I had a few sites in some indexes (free indexes) and they seem to be among the ones that got penalized (they were probably also offering paid), but anyways I ranked well for a few of these sites but unfortunately they seem to have been dropped for their keywords :( ..
     
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  15. Turbo-Productions

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    #55
    I really hope you're right.

    Will the people who actually bought links etc on those sites be penalized? I would guess no, because anyone could put your link on their site, shouldn't effect me right.
     
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  16. jg123

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    #56
    Google will never punish the people that have links on the sites because it would be too easy for the competition to 'sink' each other buy buying links on penalized, banned or bad neighbourhood sites. The worst that can happen is the link won't be counted at all.
     
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  17. stratz

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    #57
    ok I will try a little better..

    On the 10th I noticed huge drop off in traffic.. none being organic from google... I check my Keywords.. None of them that I was tracking was ranking anymore.. Someone here volunteered to look at the site.. HE did he mentioned removing an "add link" button possible meaning paid links. The next day all 15 of the keywords that I was tracking were back with google and traffic increased..

    Now did a bot see the "add link" and was it an automated drop and I removed it and bots did not see anything linking possible paid links so the Keywords were added back??


    Any else have any idea's
     
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  18. Chios

    Chios Well-Known Member

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    #58
    Stratz it sounds to me like Google dance !!
    how old is your site ?
    did it happen to 15 out of 15 of the keywords you were tracking ?
    did some keywords stay unaffected ?
    I am very curious, if you don't mind you can send me some more details so I can have a look (I wont reveal this to anyone)

    It happens to me all the time ... for new sites I get in the first 100 results for a few days and then I disappear in the abyss again ...
     
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  19. stratz

    stratz Peon

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    #59
    Yeah I pmed you.. yeah that happeneds to me for all my new site.. get to number 1 or 2 I get excited.. then bam bye bye for a few months...
     
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  20. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #60
    Nonsense. All this doomsday crap just goes on and on and on, doesn't it? All Google is doing is punishing the traffic in PageRank. If that's how you've been making money, the free ride is just about over.

    Absolute nonsense. You make the rules for your website. Google makes the rules for its search engine. I highly doubt that Google considers you an authority on what backlinks should or should not pass PR. You can sell advertising. Google is going to do everything possible to prevent you from selling PR.

    They can't force you to do anything. They can and do nullify the PR value of whatever links they deem unworthy.

    Don't be ridiculous. They can and they will. Their search engine. Their rules.

    Nothing wrong with selling advertising so there's no reason to hit ad publishers. Advertising and PR selling arfe two different beasts.

    I don't see a difference either. It's just more hysteria, superstitious thinking, and Google conspiracy theories.
     
    minstrel, Oct 14, 2007 IP