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Google "hacked our website"

Discussion in 'Google' started by mariush, Jun 26, 2006.

  1. shamess

    shamess Well-Known Member

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    #21
    I'm getting confused... There's absolutely no way that a robot could get the person's username/password anyway. So the school need to fix what ever security bug they had.
     
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    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Maybe I am not communcating clearly. I am equating the SUV to the information, not what could be done with the information.
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #23
    The Question is How would google know whether or not it should index the page??
    Did they say anything about robots.txt?

    They put some pages with students SSNs on it(What a lame thing to do..), they claim that the pages were password protected, We know that google is certainly not running a password hacking program along with web spiders, so most likely they(the school) left some loopholes in the system and the page were open to public access somehow, thats the way googlebot get pass thru the password protection and indexed pages....


    Yepp I am with you, they should make googlebot a psychic bot....

    I am not talking about their specific robots.txt, did you ask for their specific robots.txt, and again how do you know if they had prohibitated googlebot in the robots.txt ???
     
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  4. Phynder

    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    #24
    No, I did. Does Google read and abide by what is written in the robots.txt file - it tells Googlebot whether or not it should index the page - that is the pupose of robots.txt.
     
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    #25
    Right, getting into someone else's SUV and taking it is breaking the law.

    However accessing something that is PUBLICALLY available due to shitty coding is not.
     
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    #26
    Yes, they do.....
     
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    #27
    All I am asking is - Did Googlebot abide by the robots.txt for the school?
     
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    shamess Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Of course it did. How couldn't it?
     
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    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    #29
    "Of course"?? You are joking, right?

    Please give me some evidence that they did.
     
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    #30
    I think we can assume yes, googlebot has always abided by my robots.txt and considering that they began the initiative...

    if they didn't it would've made a bigger story because then there's actually grounds.
     
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    #31
    Please give us some evidence that they didnt
     
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    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    #32
    But, do you have all the facts in this case? That is what I am asking for - some solid facts. If the school did not have their robots.txt set up correctly - then fine. Googlebot is not without problems - I dare anyone to show that it is perfect.
     
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    #33
    LOL I'm guessing the IT department doesn't even know about robots.txt :p
     
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    #34
    I hope you are Google's legal team - this will be an enjoyable show.
     
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    #35
    If robots.txt was the case it would have been told in that report as its an even bigger issue for the whole Webmaster community.

    Their knowledge of internet security seems so lame that I really think they dont even know about robots.txt.

    Instead of using secure dadtbase servers they were using docushare, and they were dependent on the password security.

    “One of the students on the list had a presence on the Web,”
    I dont know what does it mean..but may be it was one of their Student who knowingly or unknowingly leacked out the password/access on her page for googlebot to follow the docushare server....
     
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    #36
    If you know that as a solid fact, then fine.
     
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    #37
    Even if the student did leak out the password, a googlebot wouldn't save it and use it to get access.
     
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    #38
    Sorry, but robots.txt was around way before Google was even a bad idea -> http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/mailing-list/robots-nexor-mbox.txt

    Not to nitpick - but Google did not begin the initiative.
     
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    Then that's stupid of the student and not Google's fault, surely?
     
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