Google Geo Lawsuit, they will lose this one.

Discussion in 'Google' started by anthonycea, Jun 29, 2004.

  1. #1
    Google lawyers have their hands full with trademark lawsuits, the story linked below is on the Geolocation problems they are having.

    http://zdnet.com.com/2110-1104_2-5251844.html?tag=zdnn.alert

    This is a great story I have followed for a while now, have fun, let the forum know what you think about how this will turn out.
     
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  2. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Nealty our AdWords bill... Can you believe that! It's F All!
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #3
    Or Google could simply use a different geotargetting service provider... Digital Envoy is not the only player.

    Sounds to me like Digital Envoy is getting greedy. They sell something at a specific price, then see that someone is using it to make money, and they want a larger cut. Pretty funny if you ask me.

    I should do that with my ISP billing software. Sell it for a certain price, but if they ISPs seems to be overly profitable in my eyes, I'm going to sue them for a bigger cut because they use my software to run their business. heh
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    Shawn, if I come up with a fraud program for your billing, can you give me 50% of the overcharges.

    This is good business, ATT, ENRON and a lot of other Fortune 100 companies have programs like this, I just wish to get rid of all ethics and make some real money.

    This hard work and being honest stuff is driving me to the poor house!

    :D
     
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    Help Desk Well-Known Member

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    How angry would you be if vBulletin came and said... "hey nice forum... um, yeah, that's going to cost you extra!"?
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    Shawn would just switch to PHPbb
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #7
    Shawn would write his own. :)
     
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    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    nice..........
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    Hackers would just attack Shawn then :D
     
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    Help Desk Well-Known Member

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    Hackers attack everywhere. I'm sure DigitalPoint isn't an exception.
     
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    disgust Guest

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    even if they did lose this lawsuit, so what?

    I'm sure google paying them 20K a month instead of 8K wouldn't make a huge difference. or they could just drop them all together.
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    Well we will see how it turns out, Google will have to pay since they went beyond the original terms of the contract they signed.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    How do you know? Have you seen the contract?

    What do you know that makes you think "they will lose this one"?
     
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    yeah, from what it looked like it seemed not so much that google was breaking a contract as much as the other company just wanted more money for no real valid reason..
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    Have I ever lied to you Shawn?

    http://news.com.com/2100-1024_3-5200584.html?tag=st_rn

    When I say they will lose this, they will lose this, today is just the first step.

    They will also lose a lot of other court battles (trademark lawsuits) :eek:
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    Shawn, please send my check by Federal Express for this research done at your request.

    Discount available for early payment.

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&r=1&l=50&f=G&d=PALL&s1=6757740.WKU.&OS=PN/6757740&RS=PN/6757740
     
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    Mel Peon

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    IMO the very worst that could happen is that they could lose the case, perhaps get a small award four or five years from now when all appeals have been exhausted, and then simply drop the company with the patent and use another similar technology.

    On the other hand, the validity of the lawsuit is being challenged, and that could take a few years to iron out too.

    Guess who has the most money to pay for lawyers?
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    Mel with 95% of Google net income based on advertising and Google using this technology throughout the entire Google advertising platform I would say they have a real problem here.

    This is not the only legal problem they are faced with, they have trademark lawsuits agianst them filed by AXA, American Wallpaper, Geico and many others.

    They have a major problem with the Overture lawsuit on keyword advertising automation sales as Overture claims they have a patent on the technology Google uses in their interface to sell Adwords.

    Can you see a pattern here?
     
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    pk_synths Peon

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    Company files an IPO
    Discloses income from "rented" technologies
    Companies want a piece of pie based on "ahhh shucks why didn't I think of that first?"

    Happens all the time. Sadly.

    -PK
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    So everyone under the sun just wants to file lawsuits against Google to get their money?

    AXA has more money than Google will ever have, Warren Buffett is the second richest man after Bill Gates, he is the Chairman of Geico.

    Do you really think they live to get Google's money, the trademark law states that if you do not police your trademark it is subject to becoming public domain.

    So companies must, as part of the trademark law go after the smallest violations and abuse of the trademark by anyone to keep the trademark.

    Do you also feel that these developers and patent holders have no legal rights to their own inventions?

    But maybe you think your good friends at Google have the right to do as they will, taking what they want without regard to the law of the land?
     
    anthonycea, Jun 30, 2004 IP