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Google FAQ [DigitalPoint Version]

Discussion in 'Google' started by KC TAN, Dec 25, 2006.

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  1. TheSyndicate

    TheSyndicate Prominent Member

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    #61
    Why do not we make this part of the terms before you join DP and then nobody needs to ask when the next update is great work !
     
    TheSyndicate, Jan 8, 2007 IP
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    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    #62
    I would like to add that .GOV websites have strict link-out policy which requires that .GOV websites to show "YOU ARE LEAVING THIS WEBSITE" text on each outgoing link. This requirement is helping the Pagerank Link Conservation and therefore .GOV websites have more pr stored.

    Cheers,

    Venetsian.
     
    venetsian, Jan 11, 2007 IP
  3. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #63
    Congratulations on capturing an early lead in the race to "The Most Nonsensical and Totally Erroneous Post on DigitalPoint for 2007".
     
    minstrel, Jan 11, 2007 IP
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    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    #64
    I agree with above, I think if more people read this there wouldn't be so many nonsensical pagerank posts.

    And not the ones from new members, members that have been here for quite a while.
     
    oseymour, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  5. venetsian

    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    #65
    Can you enlight me what is so wrong with this because I don't see the error! That is perfectly true!
     
    venetsian, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  6. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #66
    1. that would not help to "conserve PageRank" even if there were any reason to try to do so

    2. the concept of "conserving PageRank", "storing PageRank", etc., and the converse concept, "PageRank Bleed" is erroneous, based on a myth.
     
    minstrel, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  7. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #67
    I thought you already replied and basically called Venet a fool.
    Since PR is basically meaningless why are we arguing about it? Whether PR bleeds or leaks is meaningless to me. If it does or not has no influence on my rankings.
     
    visio, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #68
    Before you post your blather, visio, would you at least read the thread? :rolleyes:

    I replied because venetsian asked:

     
    minstrel, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  9. venetsian

    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    #69
    Dear Minstrel,

    Thank you for informing me about this. I guess I was reading quite old seo book -- one from 2004 and there they describe this concept of PR storing. That PR stuff was never clear to me and I guess most of the webmasters are in the same situation and that's why I guess this little discussion will prove valuable to the readers.

    Cheers,

    Venetsian.
     
    venetsian, Jan 16, 2007 IP
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  10. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    My apologies for the sarcastic post, Venetsian.
     
    minstrel, Jan 16, 2007 IP
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  11. Zerosleep

    Zerosleep Established User

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    #71
    Thanks man it was the most useful information for till now as i got to know how to check backlinks and other stuff
    Thanks again :) you got a Rep point :)
     
    Zerosleep, Jan 25, 2007 IP
  12. Cypherus

    Cypherus Peon

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    #72
    Very Good article! Thanks for those useful backlink checker links!
     
    Cypherus, Jan 25, 2007 IP
  13. tfbpa

    tfbpa The....Alive

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    #73
    Nice job and helpfull!

    But do have some concerns...
    IMO the answer should be more like:

    It will probably don't get you banned, but if you receive 10.000's of links in a few months for a site which hasn't had many to begin with and all those links dissapear in the months after, leaving you with 0 links, it will hurt. That doesn't give the site much credibility and when a site looses credibility, the site looses rankings. That is a sign to Google that the site is not populair anymore and the information is not wanted by the internet in general anymore, so they won't list it as high as before.

    So it probably doesn't get you banned, but you will loose rankings if those links dissapear.

    And for the .gov/.edu discussion

    It is true that the extension of a site has no meaning to SE's. But this statement is not correct either, IMO

    The reason why .edu/.gov sites enjoy better rankings and have higher value in having backlinks from them are because:
    A) other high quality sites link to them and have been linking to them for a long time. And B) because the domains are old, but that is not really a factor perse, it's just that because they are old they have alot more change of having old backlinks.

    It has nothing to do with the nr of backlinks, just the quality and age.

    They probably did receive those links because the information written on .gov/.edu sites are reliable, but it is not a numbers issue, it is a quality one.
     
    tfbpa, Jan 26, 2007 IP
  14. tfbpa

    tfbpa The....Alive

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    #74
    Oh, and this statement is not correct either

    The Public PR is calculated some time before they visualize it to the world. I think it's about 2 weeks before, but that's more Mvandemar's deparment! :D
     
    tfbpa, Jan 26, 2007 IP
  15. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #75
    No. It is a function of NUMBER + QUALITY (PR, relevance).

    Possibly. My point was that, for newer and/or volatile sites, Public PR is only accurate for a short period of time when it is updated. No one really knows how long that period is and it almost certainly varies according to a specific site. It probably varies less for older less volatile sites where the addition or disappearance of one or two incoming links won't make a lot of difference.
     
    minstrel, Jan 27, 2007 IP
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    F1RM Peon

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    #76
    Excellent point.

    I'm tired of all the ".edu" and ".gov" myths floating around. The sites with such extensions are given more weight/ a good trust rank because...they can be trusted, not because of their extension.

    The reason people think these extensions carry more weight is most likely due to the fact that they've seen such websites rank well in the SERPs, but that is not due to the extension, but rather a result of an old domain and a website with quality content worth linking to (resulting in good backlinks).

    The bottom line: a new ".edu"/".gov" website has just about the same chances of ranking well as a ".com", in terms of weight give to the domain.

    F1RM
     
    F1RM, Jan 31, 2007 IP
  17. KC TAN

    KC TAN Well-Known Member

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    #77
    Yes, this is what we are stressing here. Thanks for highlighting :)
     
    KC TAN, Jan 31, 2007 IP
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #78
    Just curious but may I see your .edu sites? :D
     
    visio, Feb 1, 2007 IP
  19. ramakrishna p

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    #79
    Some of my to be asked doubts got cleared. Very useful information for needers. Thanks for taking time to create this Thread.
     
    ramakrishna p, Feb 15, 2007 IP
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    omecool Well-Known Member

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    #80
    Great :) A google faq that is understandable, finally. I always had a few questions about them ;-)

    Thank you KC Tan.
     
    omecool, Feb 23, 2007 IP
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