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Google execs dump stock fortune

Discussion in 'Google' started by Cage Rattler, Aug 22, 2006.

  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #21
    I like the premium Wall Street put on technology in the dotcom boom days... Remember NasDAQ? The bubble eventually bursts. What keeps companies like MS solid and in the black is the fact that they have a product and assets.

    From my own perspective, things are worth what someone will pay for them. Nothing more, nothing less. Anything else is purely speculative.
     
    Mia, Aug 24, 2006 IP
  2. Cage Rattler

    Cage Rattler Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Is Google a fund? //// Google is facing a hurdle other companies would love to confront: how to get better returns from investing its cash hoard without being regulated as a mutual fund.

    Companies whose securities comprise more than 40 percent of their assets can fall under restrictions that govern the mutual fund industry. So Google, which has increased its cash and securities to almost $10 billion since its 2004 initial public offering, asked the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission late last month for an exemption.

    At stake for Mountain View, California-based Google is the chance to move more of its money from low-yielding U.S. government bonds to investment-grade municipal and corporate debt. That would help Google match the investment returns of rivals such as Microsoft Corp., which obtained a similar exemption in 1988. (ex Bloomberg)
     
    Cage Rattler, Aug 28, 2006 IP
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    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #23
    While I agree that Goog is way overvalued. A stock worth is not calculated by assets only, there are many other reasons for a stock to be where it is.

    As a webmaster you should know that a site value is not calculated by its "assets" but by it's expected earning over X amount of time.
     
    hextraordinary, Aug 28, 2006 IP
  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #24
    But in the end, it is only worth what someone will pay for it.
     
    Mia, Aug 28, 2006 IP
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    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Exactly!!! That's why trading is as much about psychology as it is about market knowledge or technical analyssis.
     
    hextraordinary, Aug 28, 2006 IP
  6. wizardofx

    wizardofx Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Microsoft has been highly overvalued for 20 years. No sane
    investor would touch their multiples. But for some strange reason
    people keep making money owning MS stock.

    Same with Google. I wouldn't buy their stock, but what makes
    a good investment is not what I would do, but what the crowd
    does, and the crowd is betting on Google.
     
    wizardofx, Aug 29, 2006 IP
  7. IamNed

    IamNed Peon

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    #27
    I am long google (have been for quite some time) and while I dont like alot of googles policies the stock is a winner. I expect it to eclipse 500 within 4-6 months and maybe even 600 by mid 2007. The issue of clickfraud and advertisers still looms over google but there havn't been any signifigant findings. Most reports of clicfraud are done by small agencies with little clout on wallstreet or the government.

    Execs have every right to sell stock. When you consider how much money they have it almsot makes sense that they would liquidate. These guys have millions of shares valued at hundreds of dollars a piece. That is nuts. Even liquidating 5 million shares for a net gain of 1.7 billion is still a small percentage of the total number of shares the major insiders hold.
     
    IamNed, Aug 31, 2006 IP
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    an0n Prominent Member

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    #28
    I read the word 'Billion' just one too many fricken times!

    jesus those guys and even their chief officers are loaaaaaaaded!
     
    an0n, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  9. wizardofx

    wizardofx Well-Known Member

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    I guess that is the whole point here. They can't harvest their
    wealth unless they sell some stock. That's how BGates gets
    his spending money, why not Google's principals?
     
    wizardofx, Sep 4, 2006 IP
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    LinkSales Active Member

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    I'd be cashing out too. I dont know why so many people watch these high profile stocks when there is so much to be made watching the technicals on midcap stocks.
     
    LinkSales, Sep 4, 2006 IP
  11. wizardofx

    wizardofx Well-Known Member

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    #31

    As far as I am concerned, clickfraud is a non-issue. It is just
    part of the cost of advertising on the internet. When you
    calculate
    your success rate at the end of the day that success rate is
    conversions.
    Conversion rate will be lower because of clickfraud, but your decision
    to buy some more ads tomorrow depends on how much money
    you made today, including the clickfraud.
    If it makes business sense you buy some more ads, if not
    you don't.

    I imagine that some businesses will not find buying ads on
    Google profitable
    because of clickfraud, and that hurts Google.
    Others will make a ton of money despite the bad clicks.

    But the fact that bad things happen won't keep Google or their
    advertisers from making money.
     
    wizardofx, Sep 4, 2006 IP