GOOGLE Envy?

Discussion in 'Google' started by anthonycea, Oct 18, 2004.

  1. Percept

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    #21
    It's nice to see the 1.000.000th MS-versus-linux, apple, ... post but about the network computing. Why would people start storing everything on a remote server ?!! It would make much more sense to enable every desktop computer to run a server (IN A SAFE WAY SO EVEN NOOBS CAN SET IT UP). This way you get arround the "I wont store my stuff on a remote server" and you will still be able to get all your files, nomatter where you are. (not to mention you won't have to pay some company to store and secure your data)
     
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  2. anthonycea

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    #22
    What is the difference if your files are stored on a remote server?

    99% of the stuff on my hard drive is stuff I picked up from surfing the net.

    So I got it all from some remote server in the first place.

    1% of the crap are quotes to customers and emails, if folks get a hold of that crap I really am not going to lose sleep over it.

    Are we all afraid that someone might steal our website designs, they are on the net already?

    The only thing you need to hide are customer lists and business plans.
     
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  3. Percept

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    #23
    Customer lists and business is already more then enough, and about putting designs on a remote server ... if I want a PSD file, I want it NOW and not in 5-10 mins because the connection is having a slow moment. There seem to be a few people that forget that not everyone has broadband and current broadband isn't capable of handling such traffic. Maybe some pople will store everything on a remote server in 5 years but I will a VERY VERY SMALL group.

    Reasons:
    1) security
    2) "super" broadband will not be wide spread
    3) who would pay to store data when it can be free ?
    4) ...
     
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  4. anthonycea

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    #24
    Security?

    Put it on a M$ system and you could lose everything if you are not a security expert and well protected by the best AV software, firewalls, spyware scanners and all of that kind of stuff (Arnold).

    Not every computer user knows how to protect themselves and why pay M$ for their latest so-called high security platform.

    Network computing will be great for the mass market and that is the largest market. Businesses are moving to on demand computing, with this model you do not have to buy hardware or software, but rent everything from your data center (ASP) as you need it.

    If it is good enough for Fortune 1000 companies don't you think it is good enough for the consumers and average computer users of the world?
     
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  5. Percept

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    #25
    I agree on the MS security part but at least it will be my own fault if I my data gets stolen. It's not actually about the safety for me, it's about speed.
    For example, I'm not going to store my photoshop files (which can become fairly large) on a remote server, it would take way to long to download it again.

    To summarize:

    remote storage = bottleneck.
     
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  6. anthonycea

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    #26
    You are not an average computer user Percept, you are the one in a Billion persons that is not included in the mass markets that Grid computing will target.
     
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  7. xml

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    #27
    anthonycea:

    Microsoft must pay enormous amounts of money to Uncle Sam via taxes.

    This is pretty nice of microsoft: Microsoft Multicore license

    BTW I'm not tryna defend Microsoft in anyway, just providing alternatives to the points you made.
     
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  8. tphyahoo

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    #28
    Or is this "pod-person Anthony"?

    ;)

    I still don't trust google all that much...

    cheers mate. t.
     
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  9. anthonycea

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    #29
    Put not your faith in men my son?

    Who can you REALLY trust?

    That is not the issue, the issue is the future of computing for the mass market.

    How will the convergence of Televison and the internet determine the winners in the OS war?

    Will desktop computing become a thing of the past?

    Will Google become a data services provider for this new marketplace of broadband portable devices?

    Those are some of the questions.
     
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  10. tphyahoo

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    #30
    "Adsense applied to TV" might look something like the following.

    You watch tv programs, there are no commercials as we know them, but a little box in the corner shows ads relevant to the tv content. Either advertisers bid to book the little ads, or google has some algorithm that matches the ads to the tv programs.

    It's a hell of a lot more complicated though. Automatching ads to text html is just data mining on text. Ads to tv programs... how? Well, maybe the algorithm could match on the screenplay/teleplay, which is just text I suppose. And the screenwriters could include little "adsense helper" tags in their writing.
     
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  11. n_a_nutshell@gmail.com

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    #31
    There's no such thing as a 100% reliable internet connection and for that reason I'll never store time-sensitive documents on a server other than for backup purposes.
     
    n_a_nutshell@gmail.com, Oct 24, 2004 IP
  12. anthonycea

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    #32
    I see you have a G-mail address, what would you consider that?
     
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  13. n_a_nutshell@gmail.com

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    #33
    It's impossible to fret over a time-sensitive document if you never received it. I'm concerned about managing what I already have control over.
     
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    #34
    What would you suggest s/he consider it?
     
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    #35
    Files stored on a remote server :eek:
     
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  16. Trance-formation

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    #36
    Why bother... the mechanism is entirely different. The TV producers already have well categorised target audiences, and the Advertisers simply buy into those
     
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  17. anthonycea

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    #37
    Trance, all the SE's will move into television search, IBM has already developed a prototype video search engine.

    http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9596_22-5388718.html?tag=zdnn.alert

    It is the next frontier for the SE's
     
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    #38
    LOL well there is that... as are any form of email prior to download. I have a g-mail account (well, 3 actually, with 3 to spare, anyone want one?)... but I wouldn't rely upon it, or any other server to store the mp3s I sell as anything other than a back up (or for the sale of, obviously). Context, Anthony, context :D
     
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  19. anthonycea

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    #39
    Can you explain the difference of storing files on a PC versus a server?

    Can a hacker steal your local files if you are hooked up to the internet?
     
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    #40
    Anthony, a simple answer to your questions are;

    1) A server is a PC. In reality it's another storage space where you can save files, or connect up a network where other users can use the information or files on the server, but you can also do this with a PC.

    An internet server is where you can store data which can be listed / linked from your website so other people can share this data / information on the internet.

    2) Yes - that's why it is essential that you have a firewall.

    Darren
     
    DarrenC, Oct 24, 2004 IP