Google dodgy adsense technique

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by agabob, Nov 11, 2008.

  1. #1
    After talking recently about low pay for clicks I decided to experiment with my adsense and check what affects the price. So far we thought it's your page content, ranking or the keywords. I had my doubts as my keywords are quite expensive but still was paid 1-2c per click. My content isn't bad either. Now I know it's all bull. I checked traffic sources and their influence on the click pay- here are some results with the same ad group.

    1. Paid traffic delivered by one of the DP members - 1c/click
    2. full page ads from adbrite 2-4c /click
    3. article follow visitors 15-18c/click
    4. Traffic from my adwords campaign 47-65c/click

    I didn't had a chance to try stumble traffic yet but heard it's same like paid traffic.
    Conclusion based on my result - Google doesn't give a damn when it comes to your content with their smart pricing - it's a source of the traffic. At least it is on my page:(
     
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  2. theprototype

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    #2
    I think its against adsense TOS to use paid traffic or even traffic exchange programs
     
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  3. barbusergiu

    barbusergiu Banned

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    #3
    paid trafic is not alowed by adsense !
    watch out !
     
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  4. Taramex

    Taramex Active Member

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    #4
    this is a fact
     
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  5. agabob

    agabob Peon

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    #5
    Thank you, I didn't know that.
    But I guess adbrite is fine so why such a low pay?
     
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  6. jazzygift

    jazzygift Peon

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    #6
    Please be more specific, I dont think paid traffic is prohibited by Google.

    If the Traffic Source is Legitimate, Targeted and Original, then there is no problem and nothing against Google

    Thanks
     
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  7. clarehayes

    clarehayes Peon

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    Well I have never heard of paid traffic being against googles TOS that is a new one to me. Think I will go and have a re read of their policies :eek:.

    Clare
     
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  8. gsv13

    gsv13 Well-Known Member

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    Even traffic from adwords on site with adsense is also not allowed. Be careful
     
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    #9
    not allowed. Google will know something is up when they see xyz amount of people coming from dp or any other source. Best traffic is from google search.
     
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  10. Viktor Drej

    Viktor Drej Banned

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    #10
    No illegal activities will prevail ove5r google...
     
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  11. airerdem

    airerdem Active Member

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    Thank you, I didn't know that ;)
     
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  12. agabob

    agabob Peon

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    Now I'm completely lost. So my adwords can not point to my website which have adsense on it? Where does it say so? I only found that

    Publishers using online advertising to drive traffic to pages showing Google ads must comply with the spirit of Google's Landing Page Quality Guidelines. For instance, if you advertise for sites participating in the AdSense program, the advertising should not be deceptive to users.

    And can I still by any chance get my original question answered if anyone knows - why adbrite traffic is so low paid comparing :confused:to adwords traffic?
     
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  13. gsv13

    gsv13 Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Because google knows it. Remember adsense is a javascript(kind of tracking script) so google knows all about where traffic is coming from. Obviously it would gave higher priority to adwords than any other source.

    Ques:
    Did you switched to geo traffic of any particular country in adbrite or adwords and how much per click you paid for adwords to achieve that result?
     
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  14. magda

    magda Notable Member

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    #14
    Not true.
    You can use adwords to send traffic to a site with adsense.
    What google doesn't like, however, is arbitrage, so if it decides that you have a MfA site, and your only reason to use adwords is to get people to click the ads, they will penalise you, and may ultimately ban you.
     
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  15. agabob

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    Yes my traffic is only from US, Canada and Australia. Same was with paid - it was US only. My average PPC cost is 17c however it's dropping for the last week - guess Google starts liking my content as my quality score jumped from 4/10 to 7 and 8/10
     
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    #16
    Yes this is my understanding as well... for example - a lot of major sites that use adsense also spend money advertising their site via adwords (for example Ask.com, About.com, etc.)

    I highly doubt that those sites would do anything that violates the Adsense TOS ;)
     
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  17. greatme

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    Paid traffic is allowed when it is buyed from Google adwords.
     
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  18. agabob

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    #18
    Where does it say so? That would be a discrimination against other companies. Any advertising campaign classifies as paid traffic
     
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    #19
    Completely untrue. If that was the case I would have been banned 5 years ago. I even asked Google if me using AdWords would hurt my AdSense earnings and they said no need to worry. Where do you get this stuff? There are so many sites with AdSense that use AdWords it is unbelievable. I am finding that a lot of people here just talk without knowing the facts.
     
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  20. B2UEntertainment

    B2UEntertainment Peon

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    I don't understand what they have against paid traffic. Isn't that what Adwords is? So what is to say that Adbrite wouldn't have problem with Adwords, since it's paid traffic? Honestly, I don't let these advertising companies dictate how I market my site. My goal is to get people on my site, and become very popular. The money will come. But I have had success with PTC traffic in the past, I got a lot of my regular visitors that way. But just to not risk my Adsense account, I take Adsense off my site when I start my PTC campaigns. And when it ends, when I have even more users than I did before, I put Adsense back.

    Whatever makes Google happy, I guess. But I'm the real winner in the end. Some people look at that Adsense TOS, and just turn a blind eye to PTC traffic. Bad idea. You may get some regular visitors out of it, and it's very cheap advertising.
     
    B2UEntertainment, Nov 12, 2008 IP