Google copyrights really works or they serious about it ??????

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by bhuvasona, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. #1
    checkout this site and lemme know what do you think about google copyrights ?


    http://googlerankings.com/help.php

    Is it ok to have google in a domain name ?
    google wil not take action against the website owner ?
    google will ban adsense account for that domain ?


    Googlerankings.com was developed by Graphite-Works, Budapest, Hungary a European web design team, solely to retreive the location of websites on Google's search result page. Googlerankings.com is in no way affiliated, sponsored or in any way the property of or responsibility of Google.com. It is however a tool that uses the Google Web API to find domain names within the list Google.com shows for a given search, thus is powered by Google. Our service operates by the courtesy of Google Inc., and has been given permission to run by their legal department.



    So i can make a request to google to letme use their name in a url and if they say yes i can go ahead and have the website with adsense ?
    doesnt makes sense to me much mmmmmmmm
    im gonna try sending google a mail about this and will see what they gonna reply.
     
    bhuvasona, Sep 17, 2009 IP
  2. akash786

    akash786 Peon

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    nice information bhuvasona
    but i don't understand the meaning of the link Google will ban adsense account for that domain ? what does that means can u clear me !!!
     
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  3. bhuvasona

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    i meant that any domain which has the word google in the url and the site using adsense
    i blv the first step google wud take is that , google will ban the adsense account for copyrights ?

    or is it possible to get prior permission from google to run these sites if proper permission is provided from google which i doubt . How can google let some one use their name in a website which doesnt belongs to google ?

    Im lookin for some google experts to answer this ...
     
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  4. Stingerftw

    Stingerftw Well-Known Member

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    akash, Nice spam post.

    bhuv, personally i don't think google would go to great lengths to take your site down but you never know. Although there's guides on the net with like googleguides.com or something. I doubt they'd let you use adsense on it though mate.

    Id ask for permission first.
     
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  5. Traveling

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    Google are extremely anal about their trademark. I would not want to get their lawyers after my arse and with domain name like that, I'd say it's only a question of time. If I were you, I'd take the site down and hope the domain expires unnoticed before Google gets after you.
     
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  6. bhuvasona

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    But how the company which runs this site claim that they have permission from google legal team to use the domain www.googlerankings.com ??????
     
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  7. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    A trademark holders owns the rights to use of the mark. They can grant permission to anyone they want. According to their site, Google's legal department has granted that site permission to use their trademark.
     
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    #8
    I see nothing in there that says Google has authorized the use of the domain name GoogleRankings.com. I do see them saying that Google has authorized the service they provide, which is basically true of anyone using an API in an accepted manner.

    My guess is that they have no permission from Google to use the domain name GoogleRankings.com.
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    I assumed that their legal department doesn't get involved with normal API requests.

    "Our service operates by the courtesy of Google Inc., and has been given permission to run by their legal department."



    The first two lines and the trademark notice were added when we asked for ( and so far, got ) permission from Google to launch the website
    - a public version of the otherwise in-house tool. The rest is self explanatory, but thank you for the notice. We'll break that last line into two very soon.

    Best wishes, Dr. Gyula Feher, CEO, Sorensen Online Agency Ltd / Graphite-Works Ltd ( developers and operators of the website "googlerankings.com" which is an UNofficial Google tool. )

    http://markmail.org/message/zx2zu3zbtsrxsx5t
     
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  10. Nonny

    Nonny Notable Member

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    See the post I made in this other thread:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=12477991&postcount=94
    Note that Google didn't just ban their Adsense accounts (if they had any), they got the sites shut down and took the domains. And those are just from 2009.

    Note that cybersquatting ("using a domain name with bad-faith intent to profit from the goodwill of a trademark belonging to someone else") is explicitly against Adsense Program policies - and cybersquatting using one of Google's own trademarks sounds like account suicide.
     
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  11. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #11

    I am not sure what to make of that email. I don't see anything in there than changes my understanding of what is going on.

    By the way, what does "asked for ( and so far, got ) permission" mean to you?

    I have never heard of "so far" getting permission. Either you do or you don't. Not hearing is certainly not getting permission. Hmm?

    Anyway, I have spent too much time on this one. If people want to use a Google domain, ask them. That answer is the same whether or not this site actually has permission to use this particular domain.
     
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  12. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    Then Google has to buy all domain names which starts with Google ! But Google can ban you from their own products
     
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    Google doesn't have to buy any domains, they can take any domain that is infringing upon their trademark without permission. With a WIPO, it doesn't matter where you live or where your domain is registered.
     
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  14. bhuvasona

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    http://googlerankings.com
    Alexa Rank:17,539
    Google Page Rank:5/10

    Website Age:6 years 347 days ????????????

    How did google missed this domain for 6 years and 347 days, the site is still very much active with adsense ads .?????? How can google miss a domain on which adsense ads been running for almost 7 years ?

    Google copy rights ???
    we cant steal from google but google can do the same with others bcoz they rule the market ?
    Almost 50% of youtube videos are copyrighted, like mp3s, edited movie clippings ?
    Tv shows , cricket matches, WWE matches ??????
    is google paying royalty for all copyrighted stuff in youtube ???
     
    bhuvasona, Sep 18, 2009 IP
  15. Traveling

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    YouTube features user submitted videos. If there are copyrighted videos on YouTube, they are surely not submitted by Google owners, employees or representatives. Google tries to enforce the rule that no copyrighted material is uploaded, but since anyone is free to upload, it's not always possible to avoid. They have their backs covered in ToS which you as user agree upon prior to uploading. If they get sued, it will be only for not doing enough to prevent uploads of illegal content.
     
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    - As Traveling points out, users upload that content and Google takes it down when a complaint is filed. At least in theory the way they operate gives them some legal protection under the DMCA Safe Harbor provisions

    - That didn't stop Google and YouTube from being sued by Viacom for $1 BILLION, a case that I believe is ongoing. They have also been sued by Italian media company Mediaset for 500 MILLION Euros. Even if Google eventually wins those cases, they have probably spent millions of dollars defending themselves.

    - Google/YouTube HAS cut licensing deals with media companies. Earlier this month, for example, it was announced that they had cut a multimillion pound licensing deal with the UK Performing Rights Society for Music.

    - Google/YouTube made a deal with big corporate content creators to use antipiracy software that detects the use of copyrighted music and video

    Note that Google/YouTube did all of this even though Google is not the one uploading the copyright-infringing content.

    If your business model involves someone else's intellectual property, you will have to be prepared with your attorneys and cash fix any legal issues that arise.
     
    Nonny, Sep 20, 2009 IP
  17. bhuvasona

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    cool so theres not much of difference between google and avaxhome the biggest warez site online. google has user made upload and some copyrighted uploads, where as avaxhome is fully into warez and stolen uploads on their site but the TOS for both google and avaxhome are same i believe..
     
    bhuvasona, Sep 22, 2009 IP
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    That may be true, but that doesn't necessarily protect avaxhome if they are trying to use their ToS to protect them while just winking at warez uploads.

    Does their ToS prohibit the uploading of copyrighted content and immediately take down infringing content when they are notified? Do they actually have legitimate non-infringing content - despite what you've said YouTube has tons of perfectly legal content, including channels posted by the White House, various museums and universities, amateur filmmakers atnd the like. And note that advertising on YouTube is a relatively recent addition - if your site isn't monetized you have more of an argument that you aren't trying to profit from someone else's intellectual property.

    Oh of course the site's owners need attorneys lined up for when the billion dollar lawsuit arrives - or, depending on where they are located - the police come to arrest them a la the Pirate Bay dudes.
     
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  19. allthatjazz

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    hate to bump in here but TPB crew was never arrested , they did get a fine fine which has now gone in appeal too infact the judge who ruled on it has been removed for ties with RICAA or MAFIAAA:p plus TPB never went down it is still up infact their quote is going to go in Internet history

    the bottom line is what could be illegal in America could be legal in your country the world does not run on American laws, to OP i would advice you pick your Constitution and your countries copy rights laws and go through with a fine comb or hire a lawyer to do it and then go ahead do what you want.
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2009
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  20. bhuvasona

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    All the internet pirates start marching to africa .. i think there will be less or no TOS there...
     
    bhuvasona, Sep 23, 2009 IP