Google and subdomains

Discussion in 'SEO' started by aleco, Nov 13, 2004.

  1. #1
    I thought the general consensus was that subdomains didn't really add much to boosting your ranking in google?

    I just did this search:

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&client=REAL-tb&ie=UTF-8&q=domiso+polyphonic+ringtone

    in Google, only to find it's practically ALL taken up with the same website, just different subdomains for each result - is this allowed? Should it be?! More than the first 20 pages are taken up by the same website (got bored of checking past there!)

    Thank goodness one of my sites managed to squeeze in at no. 2, but my other one is lost in the results somewhere due to complete domination by this other site!
     
    aleco, Nov 13, 2004 IP
  2. Colleen

    Colleen Illustrious Member

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    #2
    This is a website review? :confused:
     
    Colleen, Nov 13, 2004 IP
  3. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #3
    It was moved here because it's not about Google itself.

     
    digitalpoint, Nov 13, 2004 IP
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    Colleen Illustrious Member

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    I thought he put it here, and I see now.
     
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  5. aleco

    aleco Active Member

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    #5
    I'm not asking why my site ranks where it does, rather should Google allow such attempts to cheat (well, I say attempts, but it's obviously worked!) and does this show that using subdomains rather than additional folders in the url help more than thought?
     
    aleco, Nov 13, 2004 IP
  6. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #6
    "Why does Google allow this site to cheat?" seems like a simple rewording of "Why are these sites ranked where they are?" to me...
     
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  7. aleco

    aleco Active Member

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    Fair enough! Couldn't have posted in here anyway due to lack of posts :eek: Suppose if anything I should've posted it in the SEO section as that's where previous sub-domain/folder discussions occurred, but I see why this one's best in here now.

    Anyway, back to the topic! :D ;)
     
    aleco, Nov 13, 2004 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #8
    Anyway, there are cases where allowing subdomains should be allowed in my opinion. For example, blogspot.com. There are millions of blogs that essentially would be cut out of the search results:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=site:blogspot.com

    Also, if you search for "ebay" on Google, 7 of the top 20 results are from ebay.com because of sub-domains.
     
    digitalpoint, Nov 13, 2004 IP
  9. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    #9
    quote from the net:
    ""Google indexes subdomains as if they are distinct sites, so fred.googlebomber.com, jane.googlebomber.com and harry.googlebomber.com can contain the links.

    Google is aware of this, and has intervened in a recent rigging attempt which saw a search for "california apartment insurance" return dozens of pages from subdomains at areaguides.net. Now the results return fifteen results, with over 800 more not shown.""
    GEM
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, Nov 13, 2004 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #10
    I don't think it would be a huge priority for Google to cut out sub-domains, because as soon as they did that, people would just switch to unique domains. You can get domains now for $5/year, so a hundred throw-away domains for that purpose wouldn't be a big investment.
     
    digitalpoint, Nov 13, 2004 IP
  11. Blogmaster

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    #11
    For related content I advise to not use a subdomain but for unrelated, it is better.
    BTW
    It seems like Google's UK office is asleep!
     
    Blogmaster, Nov 15, 2004 IP
  12. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    What's that all about?
     
    T0PS3O, Nov 16, 2004 IP
  13. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #13
    If you want a sub-domain to rank it has to in it's own right just like another site and the same as getting a second indented listing from the same domain. So really if they have put the work in it can be done. But if you are thinking of this strategy work consider using different sites from different c class ip blocks as they are more of a sure thing over the longer term.... oh and so is great / unique content.
     
    Dominic, Nov 16, 2004 IP
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    I'm talking about google.co.uk and it's algorithm. Does Google.com have results like that?
     
    Blogmaster, Nov 16, 2004 IP
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #15
    Yes, it's the exact same algo but with the addition of choice of geolocation.
     
    T0PS3O, Nov 17, 2004 IP
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    By the way, how do you get indexed by Google.co.uk? How do they know which sites are operated from the UK?
     
    Blogmaster, Nov 17, 2004 IP
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    #17
    By IP Georeferencing. It's the same bots though so there is no way of getting indexed by g.co.uk. If your site is hosted in the US then it will show on general searches. If it's hosted in the US and the searches specifies UK Only, it won't show.
     
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    #18
    ic ... so if a web site is targeting the UK market, it should definitely be hosted there then.

    Thanks
     
    Blogmaster, Nov 17, 2004 IP
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    #19
    Preferably, yes. But not-so-savvy surfers still tend to use g.com and just add 'UK' in their search. So make sure your pages mention UK in the footer etc.
     
    T0PS3O, Nov 18, 2004 IP