Google and backlinks

Discussion in 'Google' started by Peter2009, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. #1
    Hi there, anyone knows what the reason is, that Google doesn't see all backlinks (same as Yahoo, Bing, etc)? I understand, that Google says, hey, these links come from the same domain, so I count them only as one....but why is the such a BIG difference between Google and Yahoo? In my case for example, it shows over 1.500 backlinks in Yahoo, but only around 22 in Google. What is the problem? Why does Google don't see them. What should I look for on a website, before placing a link, that Google will recognize it? Please advice. Thanks.
     
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  2. mdvaden

    mdvaden Active Member

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    Its probably not that that Google does not see them.

    Could it be more that they don't report them?

    I was doing a backlink check for a friend's website yesterday. I have linked to him since like last October.

    So in one way I was surprised yesterday, when my site was not listed as a backlink to his site. Especially since I link to him from a couple of pages.

    Then the surprise went away when I recalled someone sharing early last year, that Google couldn't be reporting all the links that they have on record in their computers.
     
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    RightMan Notable Member

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    Google is known to report and show... not all backlinks, for reasons best known to them. Yahoo site explorer is the best option in such a case and truly helps you count your real effort! :)

    Regards,

    RightMan
     
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  4. Trix

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    Use webmaster tools... it will report all the incoming links...
     
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  5. Peter2009

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    I use SEO Quake and it shows this difference. Also when I check in Google my links with: links: mydomain.com it shows only a few backlinks, when Yahoo shows 1.500...??
     
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  6. vagrant

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    Sxperm Notable Member

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    Google does "see" every back links of your site. However, Google does also "filter" link based on their own quality criteria either. You cannot see the real number of links counted from Google by just using link: search operator but via Google Webmaster Tools only.

    Even saying that - the link number in Google and Yahoo are still different between each other. If you are going after SEO for Google I would recommend you to stick with the links counted in Google perspective and not Yahoo. You can use Yahoo Siteexplorer to see all links for help you illustrate purpose but cannot use for analyze Google SEO anyway.
     
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    unknownpray Active Member

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    I agreed Google not see all back links properly.
     
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    addaminsane Well-Known Member

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    most worthless tool ever, does not report all incoming links to even the person who owns the site. I'd rather not have the tool than have a tool show me inaccurate data
     
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  10. vagrant

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    WHY would google even want you to see all the links it knows about ... and what ones it values... it would make it far too easy for spammers to know what sort of links to go after and what ones to ignore, plus even tell them the exact sites google values links from ;)

    Google won't help spammers, it hides from you many links they know about.
     
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  11. Excel 8

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    Google only allow those quality links but If you use webmaster tool you'll see the other links, it maybe because they don't want others to see how you do your linking...
     
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  12. AirForce1

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    Right, Google like backlinks from different IPs and take it as a index that your sites have more link popularity. But, even backlinks from same domains would also be helpful for ranking purpose.
    Generally speaking, niche relative, high PR, dofollow and less outbounds sources would be better for backlinking purpose. :)

    Thanks,
     
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  13. LBP

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    Google sees all your backlinks they just dont show them all to avoid further SERP manipulation.
     
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  15. diggathedog

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    As LBP and vagrant pointed out, what's show with a "link:" search is a sample listing only. It's not that Google doesn't "see" the other links, it's a deliberate choice to prevent people from "unfairly" manipulating search engine results. There was a really good video by Matt Cutts about this, which explained it really clearly - to summarize: if all links were shown it would be very simple to "reverse engineer" the link building process of competitors websites. Once you knew where there links came from, you could build the exact same ones, which would render links useless in determining your search engine ranking.

    Don't forget, search engine results aren't designed to provide webmasters with an income stream, but rather to deliver relevant, pertinent results to people looking for something (and a revenus stream to the search engine company :). Links are, quite rightly, an important factor in determining the relevancy of a site for a given search term, the idea being (in very simplistic terms) that a useful site will be popular with people, who will reference it elsewhere via links. Revealing the location and number of these links to everyone would just lead competing webmasters to duplicate them, and ruin what is otherwise a very useful factor for calculating (meaningful) SERP.
     
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    There's no problem in Google. The point here is, Google just simply show those quality links only.
     
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    Well, actually Google can see all the back links but it will show only those that are more relevant to our site that's why the Google is the top of the search engine and more than 80% of the whole internet traffic is coming from the Google, that is the reason that we can't compere Google with any other search engine....
     
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    google like backlink from diferent IP from different domain
     
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    Every search engine has thier criteria to show the Backlink!
    To avoid further SERP manipulation, Google see all the backlinks but google dont show them all.Ok
    Yahoo Explorer Shows all the backlink.
     
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    Dear
    whatever the link you are looking or watching is not the whole links you site have. It is just a fraction of links your site has. To view all links, you can go to

    Webmaster Tool -> Your Site On the Web [left side] -> Links To Your Site
     
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