Google alogrithms CHANGING in 2009 -ARE WE DOOMED??

Discussion in 'Google' started by eyes2005, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. Z33M@N

    Z33M@N Peon

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    #21
    Thanks deedee :D
     
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  2. twelfty

    twelfty Active Member

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    #22
    Unless you are logged in then neither of these will apply. What percentage of everyday people actually log in when browsing?
     
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    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #23
    Seem SEO industry is also going to be a thing of past.
    All Google wants is everybody to buy AdWords to get traffic.
    I thing other SEs like Yahoo and Live will seize this opportunity and keep search based results.
     
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  4. eposdirect

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    #24
    i like this information its good post.
     
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  5. seoemporium

    seoemporium Well-Known Member

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    #25
    I am surprised that Google would want to show personalized results for different people based on their search history or other personalization searches. Most google users are numnuts and don't even know what to type when they need to find something. I would think this would cause some confusion with surfers, seeing different results at different times or on different computers. Imagine your Mom or Dad using their computer at work searching for something and then going home to search and they can't find the same site? They might get frustrated and just go back and use yahoo. :)

    I would be careful if I were Google. They are trying to make searching perfect in an imperfect world. Most users that use search are not that bright.
     
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  6. Ryan6

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    #26
    Good post, I don't see the need in any change for Google, they already have a 70% market share! Just not sure about the whole 'rating system'!
     
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  7. seoemporium

    seoemporium Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Thanks.

    Exactly! They are like a favorite restaurant that you loved their food and they decide to change the recipes on everything, trying to make it better. The next thing you know people are not eating there any more since they don't like how the food tastes.
     
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  8. simstar

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    #28
    I have doubts as to the size of impact this google update will have. Yes it will change things and for the good sites, for the better.

    So if your a good website you have nothing to worry about, if your a spam/low content high ads website then your screwed hahah.
     
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  9. power3

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    #29
    Yep I got nothing to worry about :) Looking forward to these changes.
     
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  10. JohnS0N

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    #30
    I believe some of these factors are already beginning to effect the rankings in a major way. I've had a small niche website (around 50 articles) I built 6 months ago. Content was good, but it could be improved. My main page was ranking for 4 moderately competitive keywords. The SERPs prior to my website improvement were as follows

    keyword1 - position 15
    keyword2 - position 21
    keyword3 - position 60+
    keyword4 - position 80

    I've then done some more detailed analysis on the top competitors, market and keywords. I've generated a few more pages of content and written everything that users would search for related to this keyword. Then I have put most of these important pages into the most important areas which is the header navigation and main page in text content (I've linked to it).

    Within 3 days when google bot visited my page again, the rankings sky rocketed:

    keyword1 - position 3
    keyword2 - position 11
    keyword3 - position 20+
    keyword4 - position 5

    Now this is not a scientific test and doesn't prove anything for a fact. The results may well be the benefit of links that I've been constantly building along. Whether the positive effect of rankings is because of these onpage factors that I've done or link building is unknown, but was it really only a coincidence that the rankings skyrocketed just at the time when I improved my site for the user?
     
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  11. eyes2005

    eyes2005 Well-Known Member

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    #31
    What does a site with 'good content' consist of ?

    - give some examples of Good content please, which google will like (regardless of future alogrthm changes)
     
    eyes2005, Jan 20, 2009 IP
  12. nanggroe

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    #32
    Don't worry about that, as long as your content is user familiar not search engine familiar. you will be ok.
     
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  13. eyes2005

    eyes2005 Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Thanks.

    Can somebody give some examples of good content?

    What does good conent consist of?/ examples?
     
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  14. seoemporium

    seoemporium Well-Known Member

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    #34
    Good content = 0% bounce rate. ;)

    Examples: This thread, if you wanted information on Google Algorithms changing in 2009. ;)
     
    seoemporium, Jan 21, 2009 IP
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    sharma1720 Banned

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    #35
    not really. If you use white hat SEO and have good seasoned domain and backlinks, you will still rank well
     
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  16. topcash

    topcash Peon Affiliate Manager

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    #36
    Im not sure why google would want to change what already works.
     
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    #37
    Great point, seeing as Yahoo is generally easier to rank in, this would have to be good news for us all surely.
     
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  18. itvegas64

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    #38
    I love it!

    I am not sure how far google will take personalised search and how it will affect se rankings but for me i think the big thing in the future is going to heavy "weighting" of sites with the quoted equation above and time spent on site.

    Kinda makes sense really sites where people spend a lot of time must be good sites, right?

    And if google is doing its job with its search results then the best should be at the top

    Can see everybody being told to put a video on every page to try and keep people there longer! :D
     
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  19. Pixelrage

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    #39
    EXACTLY... everyone is going to encourage their visitors to upvote their site.

    I think the biggest thing to be afraid of is if personalized search becomes the next big thing. If you thought it was hard to rank all these years, just wait until this happens. I cant even see how new sites would be able to get off the ground if traditional is replaced with personal search.

    For instance, a SERP on someone's PC displays "upvoted" sites for the first 15 links, taking up all of page 1 and nearly half of page 2. How will anything else get noticed? This is really what I don't understand yet.
     
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  20. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #40
    Time will tell but like anything word of mouth, banners and other forms
    of adverting on other sites will still get your site found by searchers which will then
    visit your site and if they find it appealing it will be in there searches so it will be more
    about curb appeal then anything else that will get your site ranked higher ;)

    What will change is how SEOs handle there new role in the ever changing
    google algo ...

    thx
    malcolm
     
    malcolm1, Jan 21, 2009 IP