Google alogrithms CHANGING in 2009 -ARE WE DOOMED??

Discussion in 'Google' started by eyes2005, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. #1
    I have recently read on many forums and articles that google is changing its alogrithms in a major way - which will affect your rankings.

    Pages rank high per keyword etc, but i heard this will all change, as they are changing them.

    Changing search engine methods include

    Personalization Searching such as:
    Behavior Based Search
    Intent-based Search
    Universal Search


    (somthing about a users Behaviour search- based on their 'history of searches')

    Have you heard about these? apparently they are going to change the way your site gets ranked,

    ranking will be a thing of the past, keyword searches will NOT pull up your website if it was previously in the top 10 searches in google, but your ranking will not be as important with this new method.

    Anybody heard about these new personalization methods, and are worried that SEO ranking will slowly be a thing of the past?

    Here is the source

    -> http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/11/17/seo-about-to-get-turned-on-its-ear

    Tell me what you think, and how it will affect future SEO rankings/linking and whether it is worth building new incomming links to a brand new site now, to rank high for 'particular keyword terms' which i have selected.

    I don't know what to think.... what do you make of it on future of ranking/seo/link building- wud it be a waste to do that now if in 6 months things would change??
     
    eyes2005, Jan 12, 2009 IP
  2. kingofsanda

    kingofsanda Peon

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    #2
    This is all new to me I cannot imagine seo ranking being a thing of the past,
    can you share the source of this information.
     
    kingofsanda, Jan 12, 2009 IP
  3. anth0ny

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    What method was based on the past? any proof or source you can backup your statement? Im really curious about these kind of things...
     
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  4. crimbo

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    Yes I would like to know where you got this from as well
     
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  5. eyes2005

    eyes2005 Well-Known Member

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    Here is the source

    -> http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/11/17/seo-about-to-get-turned-on-its-ear

    Tell me what you think, and how it will affect future SEO rankings/linking and whether it is worth building new incomming links to a brand new site now, to rank high for 'particular keyword terms' which i have selected.

    would that be waste to do that now if in 6 months things would change?
     
    eyes2005, Jan 12, 2009 IP
  6. beast099

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    it would appear all the hard work people have put in over the past 10 years is now going to be worthless in a matter of months.
     
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  7. IEmailer.com

    IEmailer.com Well-Known Member

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    #7
    Head of that as well... however IMO they won't implement all the changes at once and to answer your question then YES it's still worth it to build up backlinks and keep on optimizing your websites ;)
     
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  8. eyes2005

    eyes2005 Well-Known Member

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    Cool.... I hope they are the words of a Link building/seo expert, or from somebody who has had alot of experience in the field ?
     
    eyes2005, Jan 12, 2009 IP
  9. killer2022

    killer2022 Peon

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    Honestly I am looking forward to updates like these. It is honestly a matter of time before google implements stuff that simply cannot be abused by webmasters trying to seo. I am tired of some blank page beating out my page that I have worked hard for just because the guy has all this other high pr websites linked to it. I am also tired of trying to search for something and some blank page shows up or I get linked to a site with a trojan or some other garbage on it.

    google already implements user search behavior in their algorithm.

    All you people who used shady seo and other tactics to get a good rank are doomed! Everyone who created great content that people like, many riches to come for you!

    Personally I think the ultimate seo killer is going to be to allow users to define how their search is run. You can already see google implementing some of it with geotargetting and past search history. This will allow each search to be different. The user can select to have geotargetting on or past search history on. Now think of what will happen if the users can select up to 20 different variables? Nearly ever person's search results will be different based on those results. It will be IMPOSSIBLE to seo for all those different variables.

    Webmasters will soon be FORCED to provide good content that people want to see and not just put some garbage up and seo it.

    The future won't be, "what search volume did xyz keyword get" but rather, "what are people searching for? and how can I give those people what they want to read or find?" Just think of google being a version of digg.com but instead of a user base of only a couple hundred people digging the upcoming articles it will be millions of people's search behavior determing what is ranked high and what isn't.

    I am thinking all you people who have little to no traffic because you won't rank will soon find that a lot more people are going to your website. These updates are good for the little man and bad for anyone who has a powerful website.
     
    killer2022, Jan 12, 2009 IP
  10. Z33M@N

    Z33M@N Peon

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    #10
    Don't worry about it, just keep doing what you are doing. There will always be a loophole in the system.

    Plus the search wiki of Google is not that great and the best of all, most of the people using the personalized search are seo's.

    I don't see this having such a great effect at all, go with the flow keep you ears and eyes open read all info you can about search. Test test test and then implement.
     
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  11. Z33M@N

    Z33M@N Peon

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    and another thing is! if you target the correct keywords I'm sure you will get to the top. If you have a site about Java programming, then target all keywords related to programming. The same for Java Coffee, do this and you shouldn't have any problems.
     
    Z33M@N, Jan 12, 2009 IP
  12. ciplseo

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    Yeh I have read this link !!!!
    Google algorithms is secret Google not give this information.
     
    ciplseo, Jan 13, 2009 IP
  13. Chrissy17

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    #13
    Personalized search results are a good thing, since they will remove spammy sites and promote sites with good content to the top.

    Real question is how many users will actually have the time to rate sites?
     
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  14. killer2022

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    Yes that would effectively break the strangle hold of some of these, "master keywords" that have 1,000,000+ hits per month and billions of pages indexed for them. The people who are ranked high for those keywords will get hit the hardest.

    Of course you'll still focus on a certain niche but instead of always worrying about your rank you'll just focus on content instead of seo.
     
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    zbreeze Peon

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    I think we still have to compete trying to rank in the same set anyway, aren't we? Beside, when peforming the search, I don't think anyone will only type "Java" if they want to search for Java Coffee as they gonna type the word Java Coffee instead.

    Also, what if today I search the word 'Apple' and all the results was about Apple computer and tomorrow I did the search again on the same word but this time I want to get the info as a fruit... How will Google gonna show me the result?

    Well I think in order to get the fruit info, I have to search for 'apple fruit' instead of just plain 'apple', am I right?

    So how is it going to be different from what we're having right now. Anyway, it's just my thought...
     
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    well, user ranking will play a major role in search results.. and i didn't like it

    for example, i can drag and drop to rank the manual search, it doesn't make sense.

    for example, I search about basketball, and espn comes up before sportingnews, and let's say 10,000 people do the same thing to one search result, which could be possible, it's probably going to have influences on SERPs

    but i am sure they have something to protect this as well.
     
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  17. Z33M@N

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    Hey zbreez

    This is why keyword research is such an important part of all online ventures. Before ever going into a niche you need to know what your customers are searching for and if there is enough searches for that specific niche.

    Keeping a tight focus on what your customers are looking for is good way to start and then you can just implement it into your SEO and SEM. Remember don't just DO SEO! Keep a eye on your stats and test your designs, keep it quility and keep your customers happy use word of mouth tactics, a good way is to implement something like "share this with your facebook friends"

    Seo will never die completely, keep things going adapt and innovate (be original).
     
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  18. HydroJohn

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    Every few months another one of these threads is made, yes SEO will change like it has done over the past few years. Just learn new methods and deal with it.
     
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  19. deedee

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    Heard of this a month ago or something. Actually I think its gonna be great. People using google are getting better results and some of the older crappy sites getting 100k/day just because their are old will traffic based on users like a new site will get. If you have a great site and not a site based on getting good ranking I think you should looking forward for this. I might be wrong.
     
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  20. deedee

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    Good post.
     
    deedee, Jan 13, 2009 IP