Hi guys, i have a question. I use google adwords external tool for researching keywords but sometimes when i see low competition high searches i put this keyword into traffic travis.But 4 out of 10 times gives me High competition. It checks for the intitle,dmoz,pr etc.I dont know how google determines his keyword competition. which one should i follow. Or do i need to look for other software for keyword competition. please explain thanks
Google's tool is showing the advertiser competition not the amount of competing sites. Most of the keyword tools and software uses Google's data, it just depends how you filter it.
serious? So when i use google external keyword tool and check for competition it shows me the advertisers competition? Well thanks for the info my friend, i really didn't know. Is there a way to find competition of competing sites in google keyword tool?Or any free tool? The problem with traffic travis is it can only analyze competition for one keyword while google keyword tool does for many keywords. How about market samurai or micro niche finder?Any good software out there not so expensive i can use.(if possible free off course) thanks
The only free way I know of is entering them individually while searching Google (use quotes "keyword"). MS and MNF do that, however competition numbers isn't a very good indicator of how difficult the keyword will be. A better indicator is MS or TrafficTravis snap shot of the first page of Google's SERPs, you're only competing with those sites for the first page, after that the search numbers drop by 90% for each subsequent page. Look for backlinks to the page not domain (amount and PR), edu backlinks, if it's listed in Yahoo and DMOZ, and onpage optimization. If you see green (MS) then it's telling you it can be beat. BTW if you buy MS during the trial I believe they knock the price down to under $100.
Thanks for the info.I really appreciate it. And how about accurate monthly searches? Which software is accurate?I read google keyword tool only gives rough estimates. Is MS or traffic travis more accurate then google keyword tool? How about MNF(micro niche finder)
The software you mentioned is using Google's database so it should be the same, but it depends on your filtering for them. As for being accurate no tool is really close to being 100% accurate. Both Google and Wordtracker goes back 12 months to find the average so it's not the search total from the previous month anymore and the search count may be a little skewed, look at the trends to get a better guesstimate. Add to the fact that Google's tool is for Adwords advertisers the PPC totals and the queries from software/services skew the facts even more. I normally crosscheck the search totals with wordtracker/seobook to see if they're generally close, different database but wordtracker is organic and people pay to use wordtracker's subscription service and have been in business for around 10 years now. JMO but the reason so many tools use Google's data is because it has the CPC and that it's free, if they were able to access Wordtrackers data then I'd imagine tools for that would appear as well.
I stand corrected, it appears that the data with Google's tool and several keyword research tools are different. Here's the results for a couple of keywords that I noticed all were exact macth: 8100 (Google) 22000 mnf (micronichefinder) 27000 nf (nichefinder) 6600 Google 6600 mnf 14800 nf
So does that mean the software you mentioned use other databases instead of googles? Also how about this?I have traffic travis installed on my computer and i found a great keyword,traffic travis tells me its "Relatively Easy" but when i look at the competition i only see high pr and alot of backlinks.please check the attachment thanks
No they're still using Google's data, it might be whether or not the information is cached. When they recently moved to Google's new keyword tool some of they info wasn't available at Google, but the keyword tools were still showing the data, but that's another reason to cross check the info for discrepences that are to large. I'm not familiar with TrafficTravis, I use marketsamurai. I'm not sure why it's showing 0 for age for all the listings, but the backlinks and PR are rather high and I'm not feeling to good about this keyword, the sites don't look easily beatable. What is BL and BLS? Are those links to the pages vs domain? Even if one is for the pages that's a lot of backlinks, they probably have several years of a head start. It doesn't look to easy from what I see. Why don't you try downloading MarketSamurai there's a free trial and I thing "RankChecker" is available (I think it's fully functional). BTW the trial has a discount if you buy before it expires. Just from what I see I'd find a different keyword to target, it's going to take a lot of work and you probably won't see any rewards for this keyword anytime soon. On another note some SEO guy's target longer tail keywords that have the exact match "nested" keyword in them (enter the term in Google's search box and hit the space key). If there's enough traffic for those keywords and it's easier and you really want to target the shorter version you could target that first so at least you'd see some results in the meantime.
yes Bl is backlink page vs backlink domain. I think it gives me "relatively easy" because they all dont have h1,title,description etc.Maybe their backlinks aren't relevant to the keyword. I will check out market samurai now. So if i see alot of backlinks its almost impossible right? thanks for the tips i really appreciate it
Oops..I meant SEO Checker not Rank Checker. Yeah the offpage (backlinks) SEO will affect your site more than onpage SEO. The good thing about MarketSamurai is that you can dig deeper and find the strength (PR) of the backlinks as well. If it's backlinks to the page then it'll be harder and take longer, to get a first page ranking IF you can. I'd try for something that's a little easier so you'd get the feel of what it'll take.
I downloaded Market samurai and i did a check up to see if its the same as traffic travis. I see more backlinks at market samurai, the rest is the same. But how can i see if a keyword is easy or not?I only see colors. Do i need to determine self whats easy like the green colors.If place 1 to5 all have red/purple colors it means its easy to rank for place 6 till 10 right?Its not like how traffic travis does automatically? please explain in details thanks
There's a little drop down arrow next to the url that lets you dig deeper and analyze the links more. MS is color coded, green - easy, yellow - caution, red - hard. Each field is color coded and you'll need to do the determination as to whether it's easy or not. Basically if you see a lot of green (whole screen) it might be worth a shot. But if you see more red than green it's going to be tough. If you see spots of green you'll have to decide. It doesn't give a green or red button. Just look at it like a BIG green or red button Traffictravis, Micronichefinder and nichefinder gives you a more "overall" strength. MS lets you analyze the first page in the SERPs, much more important IMO. I use micronichefinder or nichefinder (more often) to filter the results and use MS to to the final check in the SERPs to determine the real strength. Basically traffictravis (the free version), micronichefinder and nichefinder are faster at researching somethings, but marketsamurai does a better job. If you can get marketsamurai and either micronichefinder or nichefinder (faster) that would be ideal. But if I could choose just one it would be marketsamurai, but you have to be willing to put in the time to research the keyword. Traffictravis, micronichefinder, nichefinder speeds up the process of finding potential keywords, but marketsamurai does a little bit more. With traffictravis, micronichefinder, nichefider, etc. it's much more "black and white", either green, yellow or red, there's no "in between". With marketsamurai it gives you the data, and let's you decide. BTW they have some really good video tutorials for MS, but you better be really, really patient
Yes i understand now. I will use the tutorials and see what i come up with. something else: the backlinks in traffic travis differs a lot with Market samurai so i clicked on the backlinks and it redirects me to majestic seo.It's a paid service. I know that the backlinks traffic travis are accurate because i put them in seo spyglass and it researches the backlinks.The backlinks are accurate.How come their is big difference between both software in backlinks? Can you cross check with your other 2 software and tell me which one has correct backlinks.So its impossible to check the backlinks without a subscription with majestic thanks
Probably they use different sources to check the links, one uses Yahoo while one uses Google. If there's a big difference that is, the backlinks fluctuates even daily. As for checking the backlinks the only software I have that does that is MarketSamurai (like I said MS goes a lot deeper) and I don't know the keyword. There's a backlink checker here seomoz.org that is different than Yahoo you can try checking there.