Hello all, I run a fairly popular community site where members participate in and submit to forums, blogs, articles, reviews, downloads etc. For some time now I have been wanting to set up a revenue sharing system, in summary anybody who submits a review/article/blog would have the option to have the resulting page display their own Adsense banners rather than the default banners linked to my account. Before running with this I needed answer to two critical questions, and considering that this forum has a revenue sharing scheme, I was hoping somebody here might be able to point me in the right direction. Is this allowed under Adsense TOS? This site I am proposing to do this on has 1000's of members and experience tells me that with this volume of users there will always be one or two rogues that will click their own banners (or contravene TOS in some other manner) even if they are clearly told that this contravenes Adsense TOS. When Google identifies this behaviour they will obviously kill the Adsense account of the rogue(s), however will the also kill all other accounts associated with the site (or blacklist the entire domain), and effectively punish the many for the actions of the few? Having spent some time looking into these two questions I have found an answer to the first question here: http://adsense.blogspot.com/2008/07/sharing-your-ad-space.html In summary, yes it is allowed, which is nice However the the second question remains unanswered . Without a definitive and authoritative answer it would be crazy to go ahead with the revenue sharing idea as it could feasibly result in my entire domain and all associated revenue sharing accounts being banned/blacklisted. Which to be honest is a risk I am not prepared to take. So the question is, does anybody know the answer? If yes, are you aware of any Adsense FAQ's/Blog entries that clearly state what will happen under a "rogue" condition.
Your answer has to come from google and you had best get it in writing. If you don't have an account rep then ask for one.
This is what I have been trying to get for quite some time now, however the phrase "blood from a stone" comes to mind. In fact blood from a stone would probably be easier, at least I can get hold of the stone and try. I doubt very much that they would entertain that I am am a small fish in the grand scheme of things. I only get around 1.5 million page views a month.
all program of revenue sharing program like DP does always need a chances to get traffic and as long that is not warez does I think Google wont take you away without there share
From my experience with another site, your only worry is that your site remains compliant with adsense policies, in particular that the content (links included) don't fall under the big list of topics not accepted by adsense, like casino, adult, tabacco, firearms, etc, etc. Also copyright infrigment, a big one. And also that the adsense blocks are not located in such a manner as to render the user experience horrible (too many big blocks in the header, pushing down the content below the page fold. That's the only reasons your domain could be disabled from adsense. But for accounts, if people click on their own ads, their account will be banned wherever their ads are on. Other users won't be affected, except if crazy people click on their ads a lot, but then that can happen anywhere. So you can do it, and as long as you take care of adsense policy (you can do it via scripting, not displaying adsense on pages with particular keywords, but also via monitoring the activity on your site) Good luck with it, it's a good place to be when you're the webmaster, share revenue wise of course
Many thanks for the information... Even though I don't have an answer from Google I think I might run with this, I doubt very much that I will get an answer from Google and there is already a precedence with the 100's of sharing sites already out there. Whats the worse that could happen? We get blacklisted and move to different ad provider, Regarding TOS compliance for copyright etc I intend to manage this through moderation, i.e. the submission does not become AdSense active until it has been reviewed. As for banner formats/styles/count, I will be controlling these in a similar fashion to DP, i.e. the user supplies their pub/channel ID and I do everything else. hmmm, I assume you mean this thread: forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1309851 Sorry, it would seem that the point is that I failed to notice the invisible text asking about the banning policy for rogue users.
And therein lies the problem, I have asked this question numerous times on the Adsense forums I have also tried emailing - so far no answer whatsoever Getting hold of a representative is, shall we say, a rather unrewarding exercise. However, if anybody has any information on how one might get intouch with a human at google, then I am all ears.
I'm sure you'll have more luck by asking this specific question in the official adsense support forums, run by google, moderators there are google employees.
It does seem reasonable to ask that on a this forum, since this is a revenue sharing forum. This forum, and other revenue sharing forums, and mods for forums that I have seen, implement some logic where the owner of a pub ID is never shown his own ad. Now, of course, this only works if they are logged in. Theoretically, they could visit the site without having logged in and refresh till they see their own pub id, then click it. Then, google's click fraud algorithms kick in and likely detect the action and punish the offender. It seems unlikely that other accounts would be affected - the other accounts weren't involved. I do have to wonder, though, if adsense discounts the value of clicks from those kinds of sites, knowing that they have a higher percentage of "worthless clicks" - that is they would never convert for the advertiser. All in all, I would say that since it is working out for DP here (and I can only imagine the shenanigans that many people on this forum try to pull), it will probably be OK for you. Certainly, it's preferable to get a confirmation straight from google, but that doesn't seem to be working out so well.
Already tried that, so let me correct your post You would think that you would have more luck by asking this specific question in the official adsense support forums, run by google, moderators there are google employees.