Google Adsense for begginers.. Honest and clear words

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by OZSA, Apr 19, 2006.

  1. kneukm03

    kneukm03 Active Member

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    #21
    Yes, 1-2 clicks a day from your friends is much. It's fraud. Google runs checks on this stuff - they're going to notice that you're getting repeated clicks every day from the same IP address/same computer. I would not expect a check.
     
    kneukm03, Apr 21, 2006 IP
  2. OZSA

    OZSA Peon

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    #22
    so u say thats much ? and let me think..if a site impresses me, and I like it, so I read it, check the ad, I go back to the site, read continously and I check again the ad thats fraud click ? if yes, then there's no way that one visitor could check 2 ads ? It sounds stupid, that you read a website, until you check an advertise... lets say I read your page and the ad sounds good, I click on it, then if I go back to your site, I`m not allowed to check another ad? Otherwise you get banned? Then everybody can be banned if a visitor is interested about your work..sounds weird, nevermind I told my friends to check those ads, but the next day they just forgot about it.. so I'm not based on them anymore.. just useless, I just want to receive that PIN number...dunno if in this country google sends checks.. I`m just curious about this, until I get addicted to this adsense... I just can't stress enough, that I`m very serious about this...I dunno guys how much time you spend with your site(s) and other "onlinemoneymaking" things... but I do more then 8 hours... If I`ll have some money, I'll advertise my site too, I will invest in the future, but it's very hard to start without money as I see...
    Nevermind, I won't give up, nobody would because this place sux.. really sux..

    Whats about you guys.. where do you live ? (country enough) how much you earn/month ? and how old is your site ..?
    Thanks.
    Bye
     
    OZSA, Apr 21, 2006 IP
  3. fablex

    fablex Peon

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    #23
    no, people can click two ads, but if they do that every day, from the same ip, google will see it. They will email you with a warning or ban you immediatly. Just dont ask anyone to click and dont click the ads yourself. Built a good site, get traffic, and keep updating, adding stuff, etc. It is better in the long turn. It takes time, it is hard, but it is the best way.

    Click fraud = no check from google = waist of time.
     
    fablex, Apr 21, 2006 IP
  4. kneukm03

    kneukm03 Active Member

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    #24
    This isn't the same thing - it's not random people who decided they liked your site and were interested in the ads. It's people you told to click them so you could make more money. And I will bet that difference in behavior is immediately visible to Google. Just read around the Adsense Guidelines/Compliance forum here and you'll see tons of posts from people who clicked on the ads or had friends click on the ads - their accounts get cancelled when they hit the $100 mark.
     
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  5. OZSA

    OZSA Peon

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    #25
    so, from now ahead my work will be a waste? or how could I know that I`m already shitlisted or not ? my friends checked about 2-3 ads, so 1 IP max 3 ads, thats too much? I hope it's not... anyway they made only once.. I`m trying to make some groups on my site..because I know there many missed things, what I wanna list there, but dunno at which point.. and guys, would you answer to my last question... your location,age,earnings..? I`m just curious about you...

    Thanks for replying!
    Bye
     
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  6. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    #26
    I should have known. It's always the guys who come into this thinking they are going to become millionaires by "doing nothing" that ends up getting banned because they think they're all smarter than Google. Yes, OZSA, you will be banned, and you won't get paid. Not only is Google smarter than you and your clicking friends, but you've made your fraud public, and Google has trolls all over the board. Worst, you have already given out your URL, so now Google will take it, slip it into the "ban" list, and let you waste your time trying to get to the payment threshold then they will ban you.

    You should have done this the right way instead of trying to make a quick buck. I had sympathy for you, but no longer. You are not just a cheat and a fraud, but you think there is nothing wrong with it. Really? What if I went into your house and took what I wanted becuase, like you, I needed money really bad, too?

    Now go get a fraggin job and stop bothering us, you twit. :mad:
     
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  7. OZSA

    OZSA Peon

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    #27
    sorry for being an ashole, but I just wanted to try if the ads really working, and I wanted some dollars dunno why, I`m not based on them, they made that once, because I asked them just once. I`m not that guy who thinks that he's smart, no, I`m new, I don't know many things about this... just please don't hate me before you don't even know me, you haven't made any mistakes ? never ? if yes, I worship you..I`m just human..

    sorry:(
     
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  8. devin

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    #28
    OZSA, you just committed a very serious violation. did you even read the TOS? i guess not. you can't just say
    because if you got robbed you won't say "that robber is a stranger who's just looking for money, i won't report to the police just because i don't know him". doesn't work that way.
     
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  9. JamesColin

    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    #29
    1 to 2 clicks is still to much you know, even if Google doesn't say anything to you now, it will at some point before you reach the 100$. So just tell your friends to stop doing that, especially if they have a static IP and you have no other clics that is totally insane, so easy for google to find out.

    Like lonecrow said, the best would be a website about something you love. Or you can think of something original that you didn't see elsewhere.

    Maybe since you're in romania you could do a website in english towards other european countries and make it a website about Europe, say how you long for your country to become a Europe member. So maybe you'll get media attention (with some help of your part, like sending emails and press releases)

    It can be an idea for one of your site and you can do it in both languages so that your fellow countrymen can enjoy it as well, promote europe in romania and romania in europe.
     
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  10. OZSA

    OZSA Peon

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    #30
    devin09 I read the TOS about 3 times in this month and I don't see the part, that forbidds everybody to give the link(the new site) to his/her friends,relatives. since my friends clicked just one day, and just once, I can't believe that means violating the TOS, I clicked on ads at many sites from here, which site I like I click, thats violating? ...nevermind

    sencerely.com thanks the advice, but I`m thinking about some game stuff.. dunno yet exactly..about warcraft something,maybe wow...

    Thanks.
    All the bests!
     
    OZSA, Apr 22, 2006 IP
  11. devin

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    #31
    gaming is another area where you'll have to scrape through to earn some decent money.
    i get what you mean, but since your friends are very likely to "help you out" by clicking on ads, it's advisable not to tell your friends about your site. if you do, make sure you warn them against clicking on your ads. you've got to sacrifice a few clicks to save your accouint.
     
    devin, Apr 22, 2006 IP
  12. JamesColin

    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    #32
    Indeed I was about to advice you to create a free flash game site because you can find free games for your site at miniclip.com for example, but I made an extra effort to give you a better sounding advice because free flash sites are a bit like "make money on the internet" although there must be a bit less.

    So the romania & europe thing is better advice than a game site, but you can create both anyway, that's better not to have all your eggs in one basket.
     
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  13. OZSA

    OZSA Peon

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    #33
    yeah I got your point, but I don't want to make flash games, or sites about flash games.. I mean RTS games, like warcraft, starcraft, legendary games, what I played too for years..(starcraft 6years).. the only thing why I want to make a site about these,because you said, write about something that you love.. I love these games, these are the best real time strategy since the big-boom :) I want a site about news, new and classic strategies ,replays, movies about that and so.. but when I searched for these keywords at overture, I saw that people have no interest in these games... since World of warcraft exists there aren't that much RTS gamers.. unfortunatelly, I quited the game, but not for world of warcraft,(bestseller game as I know, mmoRPG)...
    Related to my country and europe... ehh.. what could I say... I can write 1000 pages about or just simply a word... SUX! ..dunno man, I`m thinking hard, what & how to do..

    Thanks!
    Bye

    Hope you got my point senserely.com
     
    OZSA, Apr 22, 2006 IP
  14. JamesColin

    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    #34
    Yes I understand, but 1000 pages is better than one word. And if you don't like your country because of poverty, corruption and all the things, well that's hard to write the contrary everyday. Because whatever site you do you have to do it regularly and with original content it's best.

    Maybe do a site against romania becoming an european country with arguments, etc. but that might get you into troubles with your country's authorities, so it'd be better to lie openly about it and make a pro romania, pro european website, the graphical theme is easy to choose and the texts must be informative both about positive aspects of romania and europe.
    There can be a forum, and a link directory, so you'll have pages impressions for your ads and something which attracts many webmasters (link exchange)

    So from this site once it's successful you can promote other website of yours.

    About the games, I think it is too competitive a field, but if you want to try, you can have several sites as I said, it's better, but then you must be prepared to stay a lot in front of the computer, not playing anymore :)
    Or rather, webmastering game is funny and your score is your income, you can always improve your skills and find fellow players. :)
     
    JamesColin, Apr 22, 2006 IP
  15. OZSA

    OZSA Peon

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    #35
    :) webmaster gaming :)) yeah...sounds nice, I don't play about two months, nothing, I just read forums, search, watch SEO tutorials, things like this, but the more I know the more confused I am... Once I wanted to be a progamer, you know those korean guys getting 200.000$/yearly for playing.. but when I saw what they mean gaming, I started to cry.. impossible fast guys, just.. really impossible, when I tried to make the same thing, with the same speed, I just, WTF this is self-tormenting ! You can't realise what means "to play" for them...oh..u can't.. imagine 400actions (in the game) in one minute, and about 300action constantly for 20-40minutes (this is one game), they play about 10-12hours/day, every day! ...so when I realised this, I said... okey...nice,where's the beer?
    About my country and so...for me it's very hard to lie all day, I hate every liar, starting with my father until presidents or anybody else. If somebody lies to me, and he/she repeats lying, without telling the truth and recognising that he lied, I just forget his/her existence for about 5-10 years, I lost my friends for a simple lie. I can't support it. There's no way that somebody can make me lie, I`m too honest for this, sometimes this makes very negative relations.. but I dont give a **** ..I wish the world could change, and the people stop lying, with everyday routine.. anyway I got the point with the topic selecting, but how do u advertise your sites? because these submission...dunno if they works, I have absoletely no change at search engines... or its a matter of time ? like 6months? ... I read so many things, that I can't really select what's real and what's the nice part of the system.

    Nice to meet you Senserely!what's your real name ?:)
    :)
    Bye
     
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  16. fablex

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    #36
    ok, first thing you should do right now is: Do not worry about search engines and adsense. Start making your website about something you like, about a topic you like to write about even if you dont get hundreds of visititors a day. Too many people who enter the adsense game are just thinking about the money the think they are going to make. I think that when you start making your first website, you should just do it, and don't worry about the search engines and adsense. Just make something you like, write about something you are interested in, and the rest will come in time.
     
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    #37
    My friends are rather blind to the advertisements. I didn't mention it to them that it is there, and I don't see any click-through contributions from them. (How I know? That's because I usually get 0 click throughs per day for that site channel. :p)
     
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    #38
    40yo Canuck here.

    Romania has been going through allot of changes in the last decade, should be plenty to write about.

    I wouldn't discount strategy guides for games. People may not search for them directly but if you write a really good long one other game sites would link to it and you might get good traffic that way.
     
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  19. OZSA

    OZSA Peon

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    #39
    lonecrow, changes in Romania? you mean after 90' ? everything changes daily, but here it really dont has sense.. this is the country of stabilty, mass stability, no progress at all..I hope for some better changes in the near future (2-3year) ... I`m still thinking about what to make, because when I search a keyword, and I see the competition...just ..omg..
    Question: I saw somebody saying that 2-3 hours from the upload it enough for google to index your site. Mine is about a week and no shit, nothing. Msn indexed it, but yahoo and all other engines didn't. So the guy lied ?
    Gaming gaming... there's great competition too, but that's the only thing I really know by heart.. I was playing years like insane, no eating,drinking,sleeping just gaming all day... those were nice days, when I couldn't see my monitors edge because I was smoking all day, about 2box of cigarettes...I was damn stunned by the morning :))
    lonecrow, where u from?

    Bye-bye
     
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    #40
    don't worry, your country is gonna enter the eu in a few years, salaries will go through the romanian roof.
     
    patataur, Apr 22, 2006 IP