see, thats what I initially thought, then you come to realise that sites that aren't generating sales through organic traffic will have to look at another method. Hmm, wouldn't it be good if google offered some kind of pay per click system... It's shitty for informative sites for which adwords is worthless, but for e-commerce style sites, i bet theres been a big rise in the amount of accounts being opened in the last 3 months, thus negating the loss of adsense revenue. I'm sure there was evidence of this when florida hit and googles stock actually went up.
Thats right Romance....the price of all the terms I use on Adwords have all gone up, actually theirs been a steady rise in the price over the past year but the last 3 months has seen a huge rise.
Something must be up if they're resorting to measures like removing borders from AdSense adverts by default (simply to score more revenue) and making huge changes that are messing up the index. It seems rather desperate to me. Pete
Hmmm, interesting, my average $/click on my AS account has gone down by about 40% in the last week or so, you'd think it would go up.
If the 'MattCutts' at digg.com is the real one, here's what he says about this bug. Nice to know he's going to wait until he get's back to find out what's wrong with this!! grrrr!!!!
You have a link to that gford? I looked around there but didn't see it. Were you talking about Adam? -Michael
Is it possible that it is just a bug in site command? I am just wondering since my site TuneAuto.com is constantly showing 234,000 indexed page with site: but only 25,000 to 41,000 if I check in DC.
No, it seems that referrals from Google are down as well for those affected. The site I mention getting fixed - a hyphenated domain - went from about 35,000 pages to around 18,000 overnight. Each page of the serps shows a different count. Fact is, I think the 18,000 is probably more correct, and I do not get the 'search with the omitted results included' until about 950... also more in line with my expectations. I have to wonder if the quick fix for site: and hyphenated domains is causing some of the problems... Google is plugging the holes, but not repairing the roof. Perhaps the hyphens were only a symptom and not a bug in itself... some kind of fix went in, and nearly doubled the actual page count. Anybody else see changes?
I've noticed a lot of fluctuation as well in the past day or two. One thing to those who've noticed reindexing - is the site:command showing a massive discrepancy compared to the API's returns?
Yes. Definitely. The number of pages using the site: query has increased in the past week or so (still well below the number of pages that should be there and were before Big Daddy but still an increase). The number shown by the API is still back at about 6 or 7, where it's been since Big Daddy. That's another problem for DigitalPoint Coop members, incidentally.
I was about to ask about the correlation with the Co-op, but we all know how much of a can of worms that is It seems they're steadily fixing the site query... but offsetting it by placing a lot of the newly indexed pages into the supplemental index. Perhaps they're increasing its accuracy in use, but removing its helpfulness for applications like ad-networks?
Initially, I wondered if the problem was just the site: query but I really don't think that's the issue any more. I think something is seriously wrong with Google's index.
I'm starting to think the same... Google seems to drop sites wanton now. I remember a number of resources (some I'd consider authority) I'd visit by searching for their names in Google that were dropped a few days ago. The worst part is that Google's infallibility is so deeply ingrained into the minds of the general public that nothing short of Google packing up shop and leaving the search engine business is going to shift that perception (which will never happen). The people (us) that observe and monitor the SERPs are the only ones worrying about it, since the general public just take whatever is handed to them, regardless of whether it's a crap result or not. As long as this continues, spammers and abusers will always profit. What can we do?
what i saw from the 22th may was that all my supp results were dropped, and a slow increase (with some flux for some sites) in indexed pages occured. however, suddenly (around the 19th June) their was a HUGE jump in pages, eg from 166 to 18900. I got all excited thinking that maybe Google stopped dicking around, however they had the last laugh. The sudden rush of other pages were all supp results T.T <-my tears are like waterfalls
I've not really taken part in this discussion. But for the sites I was concerned about, site: now seems to return all it used to + adsense seems to be almost back to what it was. Thankfully. I'm not out of the woods yet, but we appear to be getting somewhere. I only wish that that idiot hadn't thrown the map in the river back there. Those night noises are spooky. Oooooh look, an empty house! (Although, looking, the descriptions are terrible. Looks like I should sort those META tags out...