It doesn't matter what I say, they are brainwashed and aren't going to listen. They are taught that I am the devil, they aren't going to listen to me.
No mathematics didn't always exist. They were created to explain what we were observing in nature and they have went through many iterations. Mathematics even describes stuff that doesn't exist in nature like imaginary number systems. What's the square root of -25? Mathematics are like any other theory we have invented that explain what we see in the physical universe. Not unlike evolution. Obviously we don't have the power to understand it. If we did, we wouldn't have millions of people investing large parts of their life to it and coming up with different conclusions Ballistics didn't inspire anyone to fabricate a projectile weapon. The desire to make a weapon inspired it. Science just showed them how it can be done. There is a huge difference. Really? Shell? It's "shalt" lol Who kills in the name of atheism? God is ultimately responsible since he created and designed everything, including the people that make these decisions. If he didn't want people to break his laws, he should have created people that wouldn't do such a thing. I think created faulted beings, expecting more from them than they are capable of and then punishing them for all eternity is really a crappy move and shows just how much of a dick God (of the Christian bible) is.