God Is Real!!!

What you are doing is quoting from an Anti-Islamic website, it's natural for them to make things up.

The Quran is the verbatim word of God and has been preserved by both memorization and writing.

 

so these heretics were allowed to be this successful in the eyes of God? how do you answer that?

in the king james bible, there is no mention of "trinity".

 

Yes. Successful in changing the religion of Jesus. None of the bible writers met Jesus, that should tell you something.

You can choose to accept what the local church minister tells you, or you can be independent and do your own scientific research. Scholars like Bart Ehrman did their own research, and they found the bible to be un-reliable:

[video=youtube;3d4Mf0KfNHI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4Mf0KfNHI[/video]

 

the religion of jesus? he was for judiasm. when he was rejected, the gentiles picked up on his teachings and he was accepted by the gentiles. the disciples were on the run after jesus died. the apostle thomas went as far as india.

how was thomas talking in aramaic to the hindus at that time supposedly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_India

that they can not write in greek but only in aramaic? what about some guy that is illiterate?

 

Same BS answer from believers when there is no common-sense answer to a real existential problem.
My favorite though: god moves in mysterious ways...

So what's god doing of his days? Really nothing at all? Just watching little girls to be raped and killed while mankind infliges the rapists some free food, free shelter and free clothes as punishment?

 

Giving AIDS to babies.

 

Now why would the gentiles pick up his teachings when Jesus made it clear he was sent only the lost sheep of Israel?

He [Jesus] answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.' - Matthew 15:22-28

If you bring up that he later said to go into the whole world, I will tell you that is not possible, because he said "only" in the above passage. So someone must have attributed to Jesus.

Here he warns his disciples not to go to the Gentiles.

"Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." John 11:52 and John 10:16, Matthew 10:5-6.

When man corrupts divine teachings, you will find those teachings to have discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions, you can find all of that in the bible. The biggest inconsistency is that God makes it very clear that he is 1 God in the old testament, "Here O Israel your God is one", then all of a sudden in the new testament he is 3.

Also, the previous Israelite Prophets all came for the Israelites, why is Jesus any different?

 

One day even YOU might admit ALL religious texts are written by the same God. Us.

 

What God do you keep referring to - the one you expect to give you everything you ask for?

The point of the Religion is to solve the (real) problem......whether there is a God or not and then you will find out for yourself.

No solve the problems, indeed there is no God.

 

Sounds like a bullshit to me. Have you got any proof of that?

 

Rhetorical question mate.

 

we talked about this verse in previous posts, in the subsequent verse jesus was later impressed by the gentile and helped the gentile

If you bring up that he later said to go into the whole world, I will tell you that is not possible, because he said "only" in the above passage. So someone must have attributed to Jesus.

Here he warns his disciples not to go to the Gentiles.

John 11:52 - "And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad."

John 10:16 - "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."

they do not refer to your quoted similarly.

Matthew 10:5-6 - "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

this was at the initial gathering of his disciples. he was telling his disciples about his initial purpose, to teach to the children of israel that were lost and needed the teaching. when they rejected him he branched out to the gentiles to show them God.

there is no mention of a trinity in the bible.

he's was from a jewish carpenter, he wasn't different.

 

About the Gentile that was helped, you have to remember she was helped because she was in desperate need, it was a one off thing.

All the other verses could easily refer to preaching to Israelites living abroad.

While the word "trinity" is not mentioned , some still interpret the bible to teach that God is 3. And many use the following verse as part of of their proof:

1 John 5:7-8, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

This ^ particular passage does not appear in the older Greek manuscripts and has been proven to be an interpolation.

 

The point of religion is for weak people to have a support (called god) to help them going forward in life because they can't handle it by themselves...

 

sorry , mind if i talk ?
Every strong , and week people . have a side in their heart . people can learn bad , good think . with their own carma / religious ways.
Nowdays , some people doesn't believe in god . but they can think "the good and the bad think". People who have a faith can do that , god speak into your heart so do the evil .
they speak to increase your emotional system of brain .
Now , if somebody out there . doesn't believe in god .
Just , ask to him / her . Why she / he can learn BAD or GOOD think , As HUMAN for Socialism .
Rapped is wrong , Rubbery is wrong , Ladies First , make it peace in the earth , keep smile to everyone, don't act like badass to our parents etc .
just , realize . In this , Rule in the world . was made by God Rule .
my Religion ISLAM .
it was , so many complex think if you want to read AL-Qur'an.
we can learn about , Noble thing , Speech of god and it doesn't only teach .
You can learn how to live , to get food , to get money , how to be success people in the World and In the World after death .
You can learn How to sacrifice the lamb , goat , for eats from Qur'an.
So . i wanna make apologize to all members in DP .
Who think , ISLAM was a Terrorist .
I am 100% moslem , it was bad people who carry on my God Name into middleWar field , to hates people or make our Religion Broke' . And Believe me if you found somebody out there , who pick guns, bomb , and Said dirty words in to others Demi Alloh

It was not my brothers or sisters . it was Not Moslem it was KAFFIRRR
Believe me islam was friendly, like the old time . don't make a 2nd Like the Holly war , Sultan salahudin Aziz and Richard The lion king . and others country.
I want to be live piece with my religion like yours .
so please don't said , that moslem is terrorist , moslem was stupid ,moslem , was bad religion .
you know , the conclusion is , it depend on their heart and the way of their think .
Let the War begin . If There is purpose of god , who made the war . then just , keep it happen as GOD's well .
GOD , have a beautiful purpose for us .

Thanks , it was my opinion about god . i don't want share about the rule . every faith have their own rule how to pray.
but the conclusion we are the same . We believe That GOD is Real .

Alhamdulillahirrobillalamin .

 

FYI, New American Standard Bible is considered to be the most accurate word for word translation available in English. Those verses remain intact.

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that testify:
1Jn 5:8 the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree.

 

It's the most accurate according to your sect, according to other Christians it's not.

Besides the different translations and different interpretations there is no standard bible text that everyone can agree on.

 

does the son=word ? this is not the trinity i was referring to.

 

First 3 words? Surely ALL Christians would say there was a beginning...

 

I think you are misunderstanding. It is very widely accepted that this is the most word for word translation in existence. I don't tend to read it because it is not easily readable. Sure, most Christians have their preference, but most (I say most, the only excluding would be those that feel KJV is the only reliable version) would agree there are several good translations. Regardless, I have yet to read a translation that didn't have the basic concepts of Christianity accurate which is... Man's fall, mans need for a savior, a savior comes who's name is Jesus Christ who was prophesied about for 1000's of years and takes the punishment we were deserving of and conquered death in order to give us hope for eternal life.

^ If you can't agree on this, you aren't a Christian.