God Is Real!!!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by kieranrobo, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #101
    I don't think it is. The mentality is what enables and justifies the actions, so i seek to destroy the mentality.

    I never said we are at the center of the universe. I said because we can only see 13 billion light years in all directions the observable universe appears to be the shape of a sphere with us in the center. You understand that concept, right? That if we can only see 13 billion light years, because of the finite speed of light and the age of the universe, the observable universe, from our point in it, will appear as a sphere with us in the middle. You get that, right?
     
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    #102
    The mentality is not shared by both sides? - Perhaps by you as well?

    I agree whole heartedly with what you oppose in organized religion and agree it is a mentality and agree it must change and the time for it is never too soon.

    However this cause has existed at least since the Crucifixion of an innocent person if not being "the exact time" when the mentality became the ruling Authority by Crime in the History of Mankind. Our Congregation believes the Mentality was born by the Crucifixion and man is doomed by it until the Perpetrators are brought to Justice so good luck you are not alone..... And your being an Atheist is no problem for us now and hopefully you will prove your mentality is indeed different than what you say you oppose.

    The Outerworld of the Everlasting does exist whether it was Created or Evolved its dynamics is life and ones life can exist beyond the Physiological Form if the path to it is properly traveled.
     
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    #103
    I oppose all mentalities that attempt to justify disgusting behaviour, but religion has a dangerous ace up it's sleeve. If someone believes in a god and believe they can interpret what this god wants then you can find yourself with people who are quite amiable and pleasant in every other aspect of their life committing acts of unimaginable horror.

    Take christianity, for example. most christians will claim to believe in the bible, but if they really did they would be out killing gay people. Their god is clear on homosexuality, we are just lucky most christians are blowhards who don't actually believe in it any more than i do.
     
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    #104
    That's not so straight-forward imho. I believe in the LAW yet sometimes I speed.

    For your comparison, how does one reconcile do not kill with kill all gays?
     
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    #105
    You speed because you invariably get away with it. There is also a big difference between driving your car below the speed set by the highways authority and doing what the creator of the universe had demanded.

    I don't have to, christians do. But if they want help id suggest that when their god commands them to stone gay people to death it is a punishment, and not the same thing as "killing". Every country has laws against killing people, but there are circumstances in every where killing is acceptable, legal and, in some situations, encouraged.
     
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    #106
    I would have thought it was because I only agree with some aspects of it myself and only abide by the rules I think are logical. In the same manner as one can believe in just some apects of the Christian teachings, the ones that are logical to them. Killing gays is not logical in any sense so that's why MOST people wouldn't follow that in-particular aspect, yet still call themselves Christian.

    FTR: I'm not into the bible and have no idea what it actually says about killing gays, just questioning your points.
     
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    #107
    Well, it is perfectly logical if you take the religious logic into consideration.

    God created man and woman for a purpose. Sex is a relation between a 'Man' and a 'Woman'. Homosexuality is an unnatural relation, the deed of Satan. So stone the Devil worshiper.


    Disclaimer: No gay is killed in making of this post, the creator of this post does not endorse the views explained in the post, nor he supports killing of gays.
     
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    #108
    i question that too. i do not remember a parable in the bible about killing gays. there is a parable about two daughters getting their father drunk and getting impregnated by him, but i do not remember the gay parable.
     
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    #109
    More translations can be found here: http://bible.cc/leviticus/20-13.htm
     
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  10. IsraeI

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    #110
    You should know that the bible is against homosexuality, I can't believe you don't know this.
     
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    #111
    Why? As if I'd care to look for it...it's OBVIOUSLY some STUPID religious crap lol. Have you researched all the reasons God hates you?
     
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    #112
    I thought you use the bible [as well as other books] to support your belief that everyone and everything is God.
     
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    #113
    God is real??!!??

    Good, can you send him a message from me:

    Yesterday, 25,000 infants died of malnutrition and today, another 25,000 are dying of malnutrition. Can you ask him to move at least his little finger to help the 25,000 from dying tomorrow? By maybe create water in there, and vegetables to eat...I don't know....Something....anything...Or should we witness another 25,000 little infants dying again tomorrow? Or has he some kind of orgasm to watch them dying?
     
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    #114
    Nope, these infants are being punished for the sins they have committed in the womb!! Don't you get it, you atheist you??

    What does Quran say about homosexuality mate, and the Hadith?
     
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    #115
    I say that EVERY religious text tells you YOU are God, because it does. In pretty much the same way you quote a page 2 story from a newspaper yet have no idea what's on page 16.

    FTR: I read the bible in full over 25 years ago AFTER I discovered we were God and well before I KNEW I was gay. Nothing stood out to me there but I guess with all the other terrible stuff in there I was probably taking it with a grain of salt, as I was supposed to do I believe.

    Man & woman mighta been good whilst our job was infiltrating the earth but now we've exploded and destroying the planet I think i'm doing God a favour. He'll probably give me a special mention in his next book ;)
     
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  16. IsraeI

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    #116
    So where in the Quran does it say I am God?

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    There's no such thing in my religious text, so don't bother looking for it.
     
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    #117
    Whilst looking for the answer to your question I came across this extremely funny piece...

    There's more at http://www.xrysostom.com/askthepastor/islam.html

    @IsraeI - I'm still researching the answer to your question and will BROADCAST it here when I have something to give.
     
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    #118
    For what it is worth, whether God exists or not is irrelevant to solving the real dilemma you are complaining about. As man is expelled without Gods help your emphasis is poorly directed.

    Solving the problems yourself is the point of the religion.
     
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    #119
    There's nothing funny about it.

    Since the excerpt mentioned Jesus, you should know that Jesus was just a messenger sent by God to the Israelites. they rejected him, some heretics picked up his teachings and put their own twist to it. Jesus is now considered to be God by many.

    There was no such thing as "bible", "church", "trinity" at the time of Jesus all of it came after he left.
     
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    #120
    Just like all those texts, they're not supposed to be taken THAT seriously.. here's somethin that says your book ain't what you say it is too.

    who wrote Quran or who was the author of Quran?

    Hadith tells us that Muhammad was illiterate and was unable to read or write. So of course Muhammad did not write Quran. Muslims claim that Muhammad dictated the whole Quran to his followers and many of them memorized the Quranic verses word by word and later they wrote it down. The bottom line is that no one knows for sure who wrote the Quran.

    After the death of Muhammad there was a time when Uthman the third Caliph of Islam ordered to burn all the copies of Quran except one. It was believed that there were variations in text and recitation practice of Quran at that time and so Uthman took this step. According to Quran and Hadith, Muhammad was the last prophet of Islam. So Uthman was not a prophet and we do not know whether he kept the valid and original Quran or destroyed it? We also do not know how he determined which one was the correct version of Quran?

    Muslims claim that Quran was directly given by Allah and Sheikh Ahmed Deedat the Muslim Scholar and other Muslims have claimed that Quran is the word of God because it was written in first person speech unlike Bible, where third person speech is used. But the very first chapter of Quran is written in the third person speech.

    Surah 1:1-7. "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds; Most Gracious, Most Merciful; Master of the Day of Judgment. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek. Show us the straight way, The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray."

    This is not the only one example but there are many Surahs which are written in third person speech. So if we take the word of Muslim Scholars, Quran is not the word of God.

    http://bibleandquran.org/quran-word-of-god9.htm
     
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