God Is Real!!!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by kieranrobo, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. #1
    God IS real, and I know it!

    Think about it, even if 'evolution' is real. Who made the earth?  Who made the thing that made the earth?  Who made the thing that made the thing that made the earth?

    What came first?  The Chicken or the egg?

    Someone or some sort of spirit MUST have produced everything.  This leaves only one answer - GOD IS REAL! 
     
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  2. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    This is not today's news.
     
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    atvking Active Member

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    #3
    ok who made god? 

    oh i forgot :rolleyes: "god was always there" :rolleyes: you have a huge double standard where this logic applies only to science but, somehow, not to "god" ...


    its because in fairy tales anything is possible you can just make up what ever you want and you dont have to deal with silly little things like the truth or reality...it does not matter that you do not have even a sub atomic particle of proof that god exists you just have to bury your head in the sand deep enough and anything is possible in fantasyland just repeat it 10000-s of times and you will start to believe

    LOL 
     
     
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  4. Wulkanen

    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    #4
    Exactly.

    The OP tells us that there must be a creator, but at the same time he miserably fails to see that there had to be a creator of the creators creator and so on.
    This is what happens when you got your head too far up your *** I suppose.

    And btw, the egg came first if you failed to figure that out as well...
     
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    hehehe, quick to the point statement in question form, i like it.   
     
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  6. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    God by definition is un-created, therefore it's illogical to ask "who created God?" just as it's illogical to ask "did Thomas give birth to a boy or a girl?".  
     
     
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  7. Wulkanen

    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    #7
    It is not illogical to ask logical questions.
    You're only saying that because you lack a logical answer that defends your belief.
    Admit it, the OP has a blatant double standard.
     
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  8. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    No, he has no double standard, he believes that "Someone or some sort of Spirit" is responsible for the creation of everything.

    You are happy to say a car was designed and manufactured, but the universe has no designer and nobody is responsible for it's creation, that's what I call double standard. 

    And yes it is illogical to ask "who created God"..if I give you an answer you are going to ask me the same question again, and again, and we will be questioning forever, it's logical to conclude that someone is responsible for the creation of everything, and that someone is not created. 
     
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  9. Wulkanen

    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    That must be the worst example I have ever read on DP, are you serious?
    Do you even know what a double standard is? Apparently not.

    Do you know the process of creating a car? Do you think it is magically put together
    as you think the universe is? No, there's much work and millions of dollars being spend on develiping cars,
    you can't possibly be that stupid to make such a comparison. I's just so illogical that it makes me laugh.
    Maybe a 3 year old could ask that question, maybe.

    The OP says that the universe can not have come to existance because something must have been there to start it all.
    He then says that one of all thousands of "gods" (probably the one he likes best, it always is) started it all. But he doesn't reflect on that something had to be there to create that god in the first place. Which means he is still stuck in the same loop but instead he is just using gods instead of materia/anti-materia.

    You can't just say "I know what god is and everyone else are wrong" without giving proof of you statements.
    In fairy tales you can make things up, but not in realty!

    Live to question life, don't just bend over and take it in the rear.
     
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    ParaStorm5 Banned

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    He did say that was what he THOUGHT it meant.. lol

    Good catch tho. Funny. 
     
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    Also to answer the other question that was asked which came first the chicken or the egg. We all know it was the egg reptiles where born from eggs long before there were any chickens:p.
     
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  12. IsraeI

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    I will repeat what I said before: You are happy to say a car was designed and manufactured, but the universe has no designer and nobody is responsible for it's creation, you refuse to apply the same reasoning to the universe, that's what I call double standard.

    Now many of you atheists do understand the argument of creationism, but they fool themselves by asking the self contradictory question: "who created God?", self contradictory because by definition God is un-created, if he has a creator he is not even God.
      
    Let me also show you in a simplified form how illogical it is to ask "who created God":

    Wulkanen: who created God

    Me: Ben

    Wulkanen: Who created Ben

    Me: Thomas

    Wulkanen: Who created Thomas

    Me: Simon

    Wulkanen: Who created Simon

    Me: Bob

    Wulkanen: Who created Bob


    That's why it's illogical to ask this question, you will ask the same question over and over again.  
     
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  13. The Webby

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    How do you KNOW it? Have you seen god? Perhaps you have talked to him??
     
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    #14
    Anyone who believes the world it only about 6000 years old is just plain stupid your argument holds no water

    Ok so god has no creator so who made the devil, heaven and hell?

    Also just because something ends in an infinite loop does not make it illogical

    EDIT

    Let me use your example but with evolution

    who made humans? humans evolved from A
    who made A? A evolved from B
    who made B? B evolved from C
    who made C? C evolved from D

    All perfectly logical questions just as is, who made god to which you reply he is uncreated which is true because something that is uncreated doesn’t exist.
     
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    mmmm..... the first cells divided by mitosis and developed into animals, the egg developed when reptiles began meiosis division, but reptiles evolved from other animals that laid eggs.  so in concept, the animal developed from mitosis cell division and the animal developed meiosis cell division during its development.  so the chicken came before the egg based on development, i had this conversation before with stOx before.

    but if there is spontaneous evolution, a mutation that created the first chicken came from a hatched egg although it was parented by another animal in a different genus or species. 
     
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    #16
    This post reads like you're arguing that God doesn't exist.
     
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    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    And that's the double standard of this post.
    Saying that a god is "uncreated" is just a cheap way of avoiding the conversation.
    The meaning of the word "uncreated" is that it is not existing by creation which means
    that you're arguing against yourself when you mention double standards in your example with car manufacturing.
    Or are you saying cars must be uncreated in order for the universe to be created by an uncreated creator?

    You're saying: Since everyone knows cars are created by man, how could we know the universe is not created by something that is uncreated?
    I'm saying: If the universe was created by something that is uncreated, are cars also created by this uncreated being?

    You see, the logic is not there. You can't compare a car manufacturing process with a so called god.

    Also, may I know which god you are talking about? Because it might help me understand you better.
    There are plenty of so called "gods" made up by man and for you to say that they are all uncreated is just stupid.

    Man, why am I even writing this. You're most likely going to respond with an answer that totally lacks proof,
    facts, and is just made up by yourself. It's really like arguing with a little stubborn kid that wont accept it when he is wrong.
     
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    #18
    we all can see how far you've come.
     
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    This is the intellectual equivalent of stamping your feet and crying.

    Your baseless assertions regarding what you think you know aren't good enough, sorry. 
     
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    My last post still stands. As for the cookie cutter questions and comments, I have no time to spoon feed you guys, do your own research.
     
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