God Can Never Be Born As Human Being: What Do You Think?

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  1. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #41
    think about this...God created the world from scratch, right? If that is the case, and if everything (except dirt and water, rocks, etc) grow and multiply, that means that God had to create things that were already formed...for example...God didn't just create plant seeds, God also created some plants that were farther along in the growth process...God didn't create a baby and let it grow, God created Adam already as a man...so technically, when the world was 7 days old, there were already things like trees that "appeared" to be hundreds maybe thousands of years old (we would need to cut it down and count the rings)...that ought to get your brain going for the day...
     
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  2. skyraider

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    #42
    If you were able to make trees, which are very complex, pop into existence in the first place, surely you could make an old tree! This is a bit silly, IMO.
     
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    #43
    I hope you don't suggest that makes the Bible true. All that proves is that the Bible is similar to what it was 2000 years ago, not that the contents of the Bible 2000 years ago were accurate. See my post above about the Sun rotating around the earth, etc. If The Bible were inspired by God, surely God understood the workings of the solar system? So why is the Bible so blatantly incorrect about something that we know to be true?
     
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  4. skyraider

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    #44
    I was refuting his assertion that the Bible was lost in translation. But text copying doesn't work like the telephone game. Clearly, the true issue is another issue.

    Quote-picking does not work. In context, the verses read:

    This isn't a passage about astrophysics or science of any kind. This is about man and creation rejoicing in God. The writer is probably speaking of man's hardened heart or some other metaphor.

    Christians believe that the Bible is free from errors, but Christians don't see any reason to think that the Bible is free of advanced literary techniques!
     
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    #45
    Now to address Ecclesiastes 1:5. But before this, there are some important things to understand about Christian theology. Christian theology states that all scripture is God-breathed (i.e., divinely inspired). Christian theology states that Scripture was written by man. Christian theology also states that Scripture is in the context of the means available to the writer to describe the thing being written about.

    It is very important to note that this is not the scientific literature - it's a man's interpretation of natural events. Even today, we will write that the sun rises and sets!

    The writer here is a man who is expressing the apparent futility of life with his own experiences and knowledge. From what he can see, the sun appears to rise, set and hurry back to its previous position. You must also look at other verses in the chapter to determine whether this is a literal passage stating natural tendencies based on some sort of scientific knowledge (it's not) or whether this is how the writer views things. Note this metaphor:

    "The eye has never had enough of seeing"

    The writer is supporting his main point based, not making a scientific statement. The writer wasn't ignorant of the fact that blind people are out there.

    How would the writer know that the earth moves around the sun? He wouldn't. Divinely inspired Scripture doesn't mean that a lighting bolt from God hooks up to the guy's head and he gets an idea of what to do! This is a matter of understanding the context of the passage and the purpose of the passage. While a good passage to cherry-pick from, I reject cherry-picking because it ignores context (and historical knowledge, and common sense, etc).
     
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  6. Arun Mehta

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    #46
    Yes, God can never be born as human being but God is one
     
    Arun Mehta, Mar 18, 2007 IP