How about not linking religious beliefs to the discussion about global warming? Religion and science should be separate and your belief in a deity doesn't change observed effects. Please, let's keep it out from the discussion.
Not be all ad hominem but how many people in this thread have actually taking a college level science course? conservative people are often proud of their lack of education, so this shouldn’t come as an insult or anything
First off, I'm not Al Gore and he doesn't speak for me, so don't use anything that that man says with what I have to say. My words speak for myself and if you want to debate the actual issue, don't use someone else's words against my point, use mine, just as I won't use someone else's statements against you. Second, a warming trend of 1 degree doesn't mean that the temperatures in locations all around the world go up by 1 degree, it means that the average global temputure has gone up by 1 degree. In some places it may have gone up 10 degrees, in others not at all. Ask the relatives of the thousands of dead elderly French people if an upward trend has a personal impact on their lives...just because your region of the world hasn't been impacted greatly doesn't mean someone else's region hasn't been affected. Think globally, not locally. Third, you can tell what the temperture was like in a general sense prior to 1850. Scientists look at the growth rings of trees and ice core samples, two well known examples. No one is arguing that there wasn't any science stations before 1850 but to say that we don't have a clue what the temperture was like, generally, is false. Fourth, I agree with you that the Earth goes through cycles. Therefore, if we are entering a new cycle with higher tempertures it behooves us to learn as much as we can about why the Earth's tempertures go up and down and if we can alter it using our technology. What you seem to be saying is that if there are natural cycles, so what, why learn the reasons behind them? Well, with that kind of thinking we might as well not have hothouses or year round agriculture and just leave it up to mother nature to tell us when we can plant and grow our food. Surely you don't believe in that so why should understanding the causes and effects of the climate cycles of the planet be dismissed as irrelevent?
fair enough, but still, most people believe al gore...most people don't come up with their own thoughts on the subject so if a temperature change of +10 in one area must mean there was a temp change of -9 in another...why don't we hear more about this? Because that doesn't fit the agenda of global warming. This is all a scam to make people $$... good point, but not scientifically proven. It is a fact that rings in trees change with rainfall and food as well as temp, so that is not a viable solution. Besides, it seems to me that just in the last few years has global warming even become a subject, yet scientists have been looking at the rings of trees and ice cores for years.... I believe that God will take care of the people on earth, just like he has done for thousands of years...I am not sure that we should be "playing God" with the weather...nor should we be blaming ourselves for something that it appears that the sun is not only doing to use, but to mars. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
I've never heard a discussion about global warming that didn't include global goverenment as the solution. in the global warming crowd, there is no more room for discussion. the u.n. has a study out, global warming is fact. end of argument. if anyone disagrees, paint them as a ludite. So what is a the solution to global warming that doesn't involve global government or radical local government?
None, because this whole global warming hoax is just a sham which the loony lefties are using in their misguided attempt to destroy free market economics and technological progress. If it was up to the loony left, we would all be living in thatched huts and dying in our mid 30's from "natural" causes.
I have a piece of a solution (scroll bottom up) Here. It involves massive nuclear power facilities, rail based highways, future stuff, making me world dictator, etc.
Seems to be a wholesale dismissal that we have done something as a result of industrialization, an anomaly in human history. No one to step up to the plate and answer,
Show them starship troopers... tell them its based on the real footage sent from the future in a reverse time capsule I guarantee their main concern for the future will no longer be global warming
I hate to break it to you but just about everything is made someone money. Life saving prescription drugs are researched and made for the owners to make profits and there is no universal protest against it, so if people want to make money from combating global warming, more power to them. If you want to get moral about one segment of captialism it also should encompass all aspects, otherwise you're throwing stones inside of glass houses. Well it is scientifically proven that scientists can gleam some information about temperatures from tree rings and ice cores < 1850, what they can't do is have a lot of correlating data from meteorology equipment since there wasn't as much back then as today. While the data isn't a smoking gun it can provide a barometer and hint at trends, which is what they used to deduce that modern times has seen a spike upward in global tempertures. Regardless of my personal beliefs I cannot and do not think that it is fair to let a deity step in and take care of our problems. I don't think anyone that believes in a God should simply not do anything about a problem and instead rely upon God to take care of it. If you think that you understand the mind of God you are mistaken, otherwise, His followers that pray for divine interaction would be saved every single time. Put it this way: if you had a terminal disease would you forsake medical treatment and instead rely on God to cure your ailment? God doesn't and shouldn't care about what we do while we're on this planet; if we can do something it has to be because God has allowed for us to do it, don't you think? Also, remember that the central point of Mankind's expulsion from the Garden of Eden was that God gave us the choice to have free will. We can do whatever we want because of Adam and Eve's fall. That's direct from the Bible. Your point about the observed increase in the temperature of Mars is a good one and it's overlooked by a lot of scientists researching global warming that see it as entirely manmade. Furthermore, there have been temperature increases observed on Pluto and Jupiter and the sun's activity has been above average even though it was supposed to be at a minimum. That doesn't mean that the sun is responsible for global warming or that it may be just a part of it. Mankind's actions may also be a small or big part of it. No one knows yet what is causing it but I do believe that we should be cautious when it comes to impacting our environment because if we are responsible then there may come a point when it becomes too late to act. That is why I fully believe in investigating the causes of global warming and defending the science behind it. We can't plug our fingers in our ears if we don't like the answer.
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Can you sell me a sugar credit? I need to salve my conscience after eating that last piece of pecan pie.