Glenn Beck Compares Youth Camp Victims to Hitler's Nazi Youth

The democratic option is long gone. Personally I'll do nothing at all because I'm not into this kind of things, I'm not religious and I know I have only this one life, so I'll enjoy it until I die, I'm not going to sacrify my life for some values or ideas even it I like them. I'm not an extremist I'm an egoist.
But you won't make me say that if some people are ready to sacrify their life to protect their ideas and values they're mad or bad. More power to them, but not for me thanks. And Islam countries are really shit, I don't like this culture, so when that someone is sacrifying himself for european values instead of islamic, I like it better, I don't put both on the same plan because they're not. Islam culture is from obscurity, it's stupid because it is only about religion, I am an atthesit so I don't like it. At least this norvegian guy did it for something else than religion, he is not a christian extremist such as portrayed in the media, just read his manifesto and it's clear that he is not a christian extremist.
But who cares really? Not me. It has nothing to do with me, it's just history and since islamisation of Europe is happening, it's nothing less than normal than some european put up a fight against it. As I said democraty is NOT working. We can see it for about 50 years that the islamisation of europe has began, it's only accelerating, if the majority of people are blinded by the elite, does it mean that one should stick with democraty? Well it's up to each individual to decide, what you think doesn't matter if someone wants to sacrifies his life to show his despair, then what are you going to do? You can get all nervous, insult me and others who have nothing to do with it, but you'll achieve nothing

 

I have no intention of insulting you but that's not to say i'm going to agree with you either. From your posts it seems you have some sort of fear of Muslim takeover and the guy is clever, which there's no way he was clever, he was lazy. He took the easy way out and deserves to be put in a room with the parents now IMHO.

Plus:
#1 Muslims are mostly nice people. Just like the fundamentalist Christians, there's crazy Muslims too. If anything is a problem is the growing population worldwide, no matter what race or religion, we're heading towards oblivion sooner than we need and that will end us much sooner than a Muslim takeover.

#2 Education levels of most Muslim countries (in general) is pretty low. As they become smarter (as a whole) they too will turn away from organised religion.

#3 The concept of immigration is irrelevant in a one world system - we will end up that way.

#4 Fear of Muslim is overhyped and is only one more divide and conquer trick. Get to know one or two and you will see they are the same as you and me.

#5 People aren't forced into being Muslim, if it does go the way you say it will then that must be because the people themselves chose it.

You're making it sound like we're some dumb sheeple that get sucked into everything we read. Though I do believe there's a concerted effort to control the press in every single country the Internet has opened those three voices up to millions and people get a lot more angles in order to form their opinions so I don't believe that is as apt today.

 

Muslim people are mostly nice, I know that, I'm not saying anything contrary. It's just about Islam itself, when you know about the history of religion you'll see that islam came after christianity, so it took elements of judaism and christianity and added more layers. Religion is a meme, it evolves by mutation. Now the added parts in islam makes apostacy difficult to say the least. Also it combines religion with politics.
You say most muslims countries have a low education level, I agree, but it is part of the problem don't you think? Don't you ask yourself why? They shouldn't have low level of education, they have had as much history as other countries, have resources, but the religion which took over politics makes it stay in middle ages in the mind. They can't say anything against religion, they can't advance scientifically without fear of punishment. They have limited freedom of speech, blasphemy is strong in their law, do you see that changing? Of course not, why would it change now when they could have changed way before? They've been stuck for centuries now while the countries under christianity have evolved towards secular societies, they have not.
Now the problem is not so much about islamic countries, the problem at hand is what happens when europe changes into islamist country? There will be a lot of problems, those islamist countries have not popped suddenly as islamist, it's always by force and violence, same will happen in europe because it doesn't look like anything will be made in time to reverse that from happening. Demography from muslims immigrants is X times demography of long time europeans, so it's natural that in a few dozens years the muslims population will grow and want more and more of islamist rules in the countries. It's already happening today with maybe 10% of the population being muslims, lot of things being requested. When they'll be 20, 30, 40%, the country will move into sharia laws more and more, and if there is resistance it will be met with violence.
Look in europe we were enjoying going from christianity to secularity, and attheism, and now it's going towards more religion and it's islam.
Now maybe you like religion maybe not, me I don't like it. So I'm not happy with any return to religion, but I4m even more appealed when it's going to islam because as I said before that the last incarnation of monotheist religion, and with the added layers it's a lot more efficient at controlling people's life via politics, social, religion. I jsut don't like it that's all I'm saying.
But it's happening, so what can I do? I've decided that I won't trouble myself with it because I'll die soon enough, so no need to worry about it.
But if I'm asked in general terms if I think this trend is good, I say no of course, it will end up with a lot of tensions and violence from both sides, until finally europe becomes islamist. It's simple, islam conquers and what is in front of it? nothing. Most people now are non religious, so there will be no strong values to oppose to islam while islam has strong values which are clear. The fight is won per advance by islam, but it will still be a fight, will not go down peacefully, they won't wait until they're 90%, they'll want the islamist state when they're 30, 40 or 50% and what about the rest of the population at this moment? They'll have to accept it, not happy, but they won't have anything left to say without fearing punishement, just like now must feel the attheists of islamist countries.

When you say fear of muslim, I don't like it, because fear means we are afraid, and then the word islamophobia is used to pretend people are afraid unjustly. But it is wrong, first they're not afraid, they simply don't want. And they don't want, not because they don't know enough about islam, not because they're racist, not because they are bad people, just because they find those values stupid, not equal, not just, based on myths that they don't want to hear about (religion) anymore. So it's not fear it's disdain, we simply don't want it, we wish muslims coming to europe would abandon their middle age views. They come to europe, they're not in a islamist country anymore, they could leave religion, they could speak up against it, but instead they form ghettos, they stick with religion and they want to changes the rules to reproduce the politics they left. That's a pity.

Well, otherwise all is good for me, I'm not angry, I'm not fearful, as I said I will just enjoy my life to the fullest until I die, I'm not preocuppied by this, I'm simply saying it in this thread because that's the topic, it's just to pass the time and discuss, it's no big deal

 

The reasoning in your posts is accurate and effective in addressing the circumstances and reasoning the assailant used for his crime.

The Garden is born of Violence and Self Preservation a motivation for all the species as they persist.

If they are not Mad then there is a "Bad" - Not the Garden but its persuasion (God) will not have your "bad" nor those who seek the Everlasting, realized by them evils death is the reason allowed for their continuance in life - there is no choice.

The assailant has not fought evil by killing others for his cause but has used evil as disguised by your posts the rational for the event not knowing the difference and is indeed Mad and the outcome Bad but the Act as you say has Reason.

 

Democracy does not work, Islamic rule does not work, what works then? Facism? Like the one in Israel?

Your friend Anders Behring Idiot Brevik does seem think so: "So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists." Anders Behring Brevik

 

imaginative comparisons. thanks for telling us about this!